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When an electrician installs new wiring + fuse box what paper work does he need to provide?
An electrical installation certificate and if you are in England or Wales - Part P certificates.
Why the question?
Part P if domestic only.
in England and waiting on electrician to complete wiring to the new part of the build. Is there a sample of what the certificate(s) look like so I know we have the correct documents for the council?
thank you for responding fast
You should be talking to the spark or builder - if the spark says he's going to give it to the builder ............. you need to make sure the builder gives it to you...........
Are your local building control involved?
the electrician stated he will provide the electrical installation condition report/certificate which is 2 pages that go to the council to approve, is this correct or I need to ask for additional paper work, if so which specific ones? and do you have a sample of what it looks like?
Right .......... so 1 spark started the work, and another has taken over - is this correct?
the new electrician started from scratch, fitting the fuse box + wiring which is all wired up and working
What is to disagree about Part P applies to domestic so wouldn't be applicable if it were outside of this remit except in some cases.
so you should receive a EIC ( electrical installation certificate) which is generally about 6 pages including schedule of tests. the electrician then notifies the work through niceic or whichever scam he's in and you then eventually receive a completion certificate from building control.
As Murdock has already stated , you should have a building regulations compliance certificate (part P for domestic works) and an electrical installation certificate
does the Part P come from the council? or the electrician should provide it. We have direct contact with the council so my advise was to forward the 2 page EICR to the council for final approval. If I need an EIC as well as an EICR then I will contact the electrician, or a Part P certificate too? if the electrician has to provide that?
thanks in advance.
How long ago did he finish? Have you paid him?
read post #10
I don't see where an EICR comes into it.
A Eicr is not 2 pages long.......try 7 and could be more with additional pages added.
If only it was 2 pages!
just to muddy waters.
The Building compliance certificate should come from the electricians scam provider .
has anyone got a sample / picture of exactly what I'm expecting so I know what to ask for?
Can people please stop saying scam you are bringing the place down.
Try this link
What's people's issues with their respective schemes ?
Please don't say money
For the benefit of the debate, the op has told me via a pm that a new spark came on board after they had been ripped off...
The Part 'P' document is two pages long so maybe that is what the council want?
If the electrician is NIC then he can issue you with the Part 'P' direct from the NIC website and you have to wait for it to be posted.
The Part 'P' looks like the sample below.
eec247 Part-P Certificate of Compliance - http://www.eec247.com/mandatory/part_p_cert/part_p_cert.html
So just to add.
Not all building control offices accept an EICR in place of an EIC.
So OP check with building control or you may be faced with more costs
Sorry. Got to disagree with this 2 page stuff.
Stroma issue a single sided A5 document
If you look at the example link i gave then you will see the main cert page and a information page as page 2 hence two pages
If the sparky is sending the test results to the council for them to issue the cert perhaps he isn't in a scheme?
They do nothing to sort out the cowboys ................... unless they use their logo's
They don't represent the views of the trade
They don't cooperate to sort out the DNO's
Need I go on?
It's good to let it all out
EG: I've not noticed any of the schemes "pushing back" on the changes proposed for the 18th edition - or even saying delay it.
Because they would lose revenue.
So its alright for them to recommend we ALL have to implement this stuff and buy the books, take exams, etc and they can sit back and estimate how much (more) profit they will make.
Go on Murdoch you tell him.
On the contrary I've watched niceic and napit webinars were they've attached comments to the DPC dismissing quite a few of the proposed changers including the earth electrode and especially part 8.
Have a look on YouTube.
Napit have especially commented on the changes and recommended their own 'improvements ' if you like.
Worth a watch Murdock.
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