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  1. cliffed
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    cliffed Regular EF Member

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    Been very busy on our firm,starting jobs & still not returned to any,god knows what mess they are in.
    Had a subby go to one of the jobs,I wasn't there at the time,anyway I go back & basically lights are not connected to appropriate switching in rooms.
    I definitely ain't putting it right,so meets this guy,he says I was told to put up the lights for you,I said yea,dont you test to see they are working correctly,no it's not what I was told to do.
    Im I the only one who gets this ****.
     
  2. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    This is how a lot of the younger electricians mind works these days .
     
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  3. Pete999
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    If that's all they were told to do, what do do you expect, pay peanuts get Monkeys.
     
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  4. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Don't work with youngsters much anymore but when I did there weren't too many who worked on initiative probably through lack of experience but these days the standard reply is "not my job" or the reply Cliff received.
     
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  5. Pete999
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    No Cliff like I said monkeys get paid in peanuts, you get the minimum for what they are paid, sign of the times I'm afraid
     
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  6. Leesparkykent
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    Leesparkykent You Rock Gmes Staff Member Trusted Advisor

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    I'm a youngster compared to you lot :p and I certainly don't carry the attitude a couple of you have tarred us with :eek:
     
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  7. Pete999
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    How old are you Lee?
     
  8. Leesparkykent
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    Leesparkykent You Rock Gmes Staff Member Trusted Advisor

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    PM sent mate.
     
  9. Pete999
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    Read it Lee
     
  10. cliffed
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    cliffed Regular EF Member

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    Agree,whatever will happen when we have retired...
     
  11. Pete999
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    Well they be a lot older and wiser, and saying the same thing as we are now about the younger generation, I would imagine, think it's called growing up.
     
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  12. davesparks
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    davesparks Trusted Advisor

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    Was the subby in question given all of the information he needed? A good, legible set of plans or suchlike?

    If the person he is working for is too busy to go to the job or explain what needs to be done properly then you can't expect the subby to get it right.
     
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  13. cliffed
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    cliffed Regular EF Member

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    Yea he knew what was needed,used to be 3 rooms turned into 2 rooms so lighting needed altering to suit,right pigs ear he's made of it.
    He's told the gaffer it's all working,got paid & scarpered.
     
  14. Pete999
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    Gaffer should have checked before he parted with the spondulux
     
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  15. Dave OCD
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    Dave OCD Electrician's Arms

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    This is why I'm staying a sole trader [well two of us], but with expansion comes this sort of nonsense IMO.
     
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  16. LankyWill
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    LankyWill Electrician's Arms

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    I think its not a generation issue its a personal issue, im 24 and i certainly dont leave a job half arsed or leave circuits un-tested. My boss drilled 'use you initiative' into us as apprentices and ive been doing fine on my own whilst subbing. If anything i have met old boys who couldnt careless and are stubborn about passing on vital knowledge to younger sparks as its 'not my job'.
     
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  17. Leesparkykent
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    Leesparkykent You Rock Gmes Staff Member Trusted Advisor

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    I'm going to blow my own trumpet here......I know of and worked with plenty of "older" sparks and I run rings around them in terms of quality, productivity, attention to detail and knowledge.:confused:
     
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  18. Leader
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    Leader Electrician's Arms

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    Agree with that. I've had lazy ******s working for me and I've had a number of very enthusiastic youngsters who have bucket loads of initiative. I think it's like common sense, it's amazing how many people just don't have it.
     
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  19. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    I don't think you can tar all age groups with the same brush, mind you if I worked with Lee he might find himself up for murder:D
     
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  20. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    Fair point however I've come across a few electricians in the past just come out of being a apprentice turn up in top of range work clothes all the latest drills etc. and site radio at full blast. Do a poor standard of work go home at 2.30 and leave the rest of us to sort the problems out .
     
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  21. Leesparkykent
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    Leesparkykent You Rock Gmes Staff Member Trusted Advisor

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    haha....I would love to get a big commercial job and organise a team off of here. Every one stops what they are up to and does it for one week. I think we would have a proper elite team....Or a case of too many chiefs :D
     
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  22. LankyWill
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    LankyWill Electrician's Arms

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    I sense jealousy on the work clothes and tools part, i get this constantly. I wear trousers with holster pockets with knee pads and a smart hoodie because i like to look smart and tidy not like an old tramp in blue jeans moaning about their wrecked knees because your a 'wimp if you wear kneepads' jog on!.

    Just because people invest in themselves and buy kit to help improve there work and make themselves efficient doesn't mean "all the gear no idea". I find it annoying and embarrassing when people lack a full tool kit because they would rather **** their wage down the boozer urninal than buy extensive kit. I never need to borrow someones tools because i saved and invested when i was an apprentice. I have a lot of nice tools that i have grafted for, just because i chose not to waste it on drink and nights out and i thought about my career doesnt mean i havent a clue!

    Rant!
     
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  23. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    We'd get bu**er all done Lee.
     
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  24. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    Not at all its peoples attitudes of doing a good job and giving a dam to the work they are doing .
     
  25. Des 56
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    Des 56 Trusted Advisor

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    There was no need to have a go at me like that:eek::)
    My jeans get washed every so often
    Am going now for my usual couple of jars down the boozer, and I will have you know my knees are just fine :)
     
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  26. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    You've obviously never com home on your hands & knees ;)
     
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  27. Dave OCD
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    Dave OCD Electrician's Arms

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    Put me down for it Lee, as long as you pay me travelling costs. :eek: :D
     
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  28. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    Do you think we will all agree on how to do the job.
     
  29. Dave OCD
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    Dave OCD Electrician's Arms

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    Just sack the awkward and argumentative troublemakers immediately, that would reduce the team considerably, probably be 3 or 4 left. :D
     
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  30. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Me out then:D
     
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  31. Wilko
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    Wilko Electrician's Arms

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    Ha - speak for yourself - I'd make plenty of tea and scones :)
     
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    Whatever job it is, we could talk about it for 2 years and smash it out in half a day - that way we'd have all of our disagreements out of the way and no time, whilst on the job, to argue!
    I expect some "winner" buttons for that one, please!
     
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  33. seltechpc
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    That many ?
     
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  34. Dannyg8810
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    Dannyg8810 Electrician's Arms

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    Posted in wrong thread
     
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