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  1. Murdoch
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    Got a call from a customer saying they needed a socket moving as they are removing a wall ....... well actually its 2 sockets - the one to the left of the picture and the one you can see...

    Both pieces of conduit have 2 x 2.5mm in them!


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    I didn't expect to find this in a 70's house ..... the wall to the right is the outside wall and behind the sockets is where the original kitchen was ......

    Wonder where the conduit goes next?

    I ran out of time yesterday to do any more investigation......
     
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  2. Pete999
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    Have fun Murdoch
     
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  3. Murdoch
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    Thanks...................... not the most useful comment ......................
     
  4. Pete999
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    Oh sorry about that was going to wish you luck,, not sure I'll bother now.
     
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  5. Rob
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    Loos like they may even be using the conduit as the CPC. Although I can't quite make it out in the photo.

    Edit: Just seen the unsleeved CPC twisted together. Although that may not mean that it isn't being used as a CPC somewhere else in the house.
     
  6. KEV 1 N
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    Advise the customer to take up limbo dancing:)
     
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  7. Pete999
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    That's not very helpful mate, funny though, Murdoch might take umbridge
     
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  8. KEV 1 N
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    image.jpeg Instead of fire, make the conduit live.....should be fun:eek:
     
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  9. KEV 1 N
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    Seriously though, I suppose all you can do is fathom out how it's wired and then alter it to suit the job. As you say it strange to see conduit in a house, love those old Wandsworth sockets!
     
  10. Pete999
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    Shut that door
     
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  11. anthonybragg
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    Are they on different circuits and I assume that the one on left out of shot has one conduit to it from the right.All you can do is follow them back and see if you can fit metal adaptable boxes.
     
  12. Pete999
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    How are you going to thread conduit that's buried in the wall?
     
  13. Murdoch
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    rather bizarrely they are both on the same circuit ... so why they didn't run from them on the same conduit is anyone's guess!
     
  14. Pete999
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    Probably because they didn't know how to tube and wire a RFC , with only one tube back at the point of supply would be my guess.
     
  15. anthonybragg
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    No idea that's why I posted follow back and see, they hopefully go in ceiling void.
     
  16. Pete999
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    Probably not Ant, personally in my experience it's going to be a case of look and ye shall find, or transferring from flush to surface wiring systems, the first thing would be to find out how the RFC is wired, the right way or the wrong way makes a world of difference in any alterations.
     
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    Unless you can get back to a coupler try Demon Cato CL20GA Conlok Quick Fit Galvanised Steel Straight Solid Adaptor With Serrated Socket Grub Screw 20mm, can be fitted straight onto a cut end
     
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  18. Leesparkykent
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    Was going to suggest the same.
     
  19. Murdoch
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    I am just wondering which way the conduit goes next!
     
  20. buzzlightyear
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    probably next door house looking at that lot.
     
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  21. Murdoch
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    Its a detached house!
     
  22. Nigel Martin
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    Tricky one that , what sort of test do you put on it once you’ve done the work , sure if you use containment for cpc you are supposed to use high current meter that injects 20/30a to check for good connections (Claire meter) if memory is correct , did a job for Ng Bailey for post office in early 90’s and we used containment as cpc
     
  23. Nigel Martin
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    Clare B433R - Safety Testing - Seaward - http://www.seaward.co.uk/products/industrial-electrical-safety-testing-measurement-equipment/safety-testing/clare-b433r
    Not sure if it was a post office spec on testing , but we defo had to use something similar to above
     
  24. ipf
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    Good luck with that one.
    I was asked to sort this out. They couldn't open the window to put the plant pots on their new 'mini veranda'.



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  25. Nigel Martin
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    I’d be certainly be asking for test results of any past tests if any , if not recommend full test just for peace of mind on an installation of that age
     
  26. freddo
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    Is that t+e in the conduit? If so does the conduit go much further than the corner of the wall?
     
  27. Murdoch
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    UPDATE:

    Been back today ............ so I made the opening bigger into the wall:

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    And found that all the conduit was doing, was protecting the ring after it comes out of the cavity ....................

    And one cable did link the 2 boxes together!

    So all's good with the customer , who had agreed T&M for the work............. so I'll be sending an estimate later.


    Thanks for the comments "team"
     
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  28. KEV 1 N
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    So it was just a short piece of conduit, rather than a full installation of conduit?
     
  29. Murdoch
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    Well, 1 short piece and 1 long piece .................... so yes not a full conduit install
     
  30. anthonybragg
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    So what is the plan for the two ends ?.
     
  31. Murdoch
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    A new 2G socket ...
     
  32. anthonybragg
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    At last a post that ends well and we get to know the end result.
     
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  33. Pete999
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    Who are you going to vote for Adam?
     
  34. EbolaSideRoom
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    I see this is all wrapped up now but, out of interest, is it by any chance a former MOD property?
     
  35. diyterry
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    Sorry excuse my ignorance, but what's a cpc?
     
  36. Pete999
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    Circuit Protective Conductor (earth wire)
     
  37. telectrix
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    what a silly place to fit a window.
     
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  38. diyterry
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    Brilliant, thanks for that.
     
  39. diyterry
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    Brilliant, thanks for that.
     
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  41. driverman
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    Awww, how low can you get! lol
     
  42. SWD
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    Has the house been extended in the past?
     
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    i'd have put the cage (extended) on the outhouse and had a couple of chairs and a beer table out there.
     
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