Discussion in 'Business Related' started by Vortigern, Aug 12, 2017.
Discuss How about that then? ladidadidadedooo in the Business Related area at ElectrciansForums.co.uk.
Waddya think? Oh yeh it's free by the way.
Something for nothing? got to be dodgy imo
how does it work then? if it is free for both customer and trades then they must either be running it at a loss to get the site up and running with fees to come once established or they are going to flood you with adverts, phonecalls and the like....
I am sceptical but open minded to finding out more info
[email protected] this is the person who will explain it. I did write and say no way this has to be a scam. I am still most suspect to be honest. I want some one else to try it and see if they get burnt. Did I just say that?
There's no physical address listed, no phone contact details - and the domain is registered to a private individual named Vasil Gyulev.
The company was formed a month ago, the registered address is:
KEMP HOUSE 160 CITY ROAD
Make of that what you will.
Good bit of detective work there @sean_ork ! It deepens my suspicions past the point of paranoia
Isn't that the virtual address a certain "fire" expert ex-member used?
I've no idea, but whatever it's likely just a serviced mail box.
Lots of companies live there;
Business Office Address Services London - Capital Office - https://yourvirtualofficelondon.co.uk/london-mail-address-business-services/
It's a £45 way to remain anonymous when registering a company, I'm told. Why does someone need to be untraceable in a business ? I'm sure there must be a good reason
bailiffs can't strip furniture from a virtual office/mailbox.
They are allowed to go into and premises that the company may trade from. A Reg. address can be the office of accountants used.
That address is used by a company formation service. As someone has already said, there are a number of companies with that as their registered address (my registered office address was that one once)
You may just not want your home address on the public record. It's accessible for those who need it via Companies House, but you have to explicitly request it I believe. I don't want people I don't do business with knowing my home address, so my registered office was the same as this company (I'm guessing they used the same company formation agent), now my registered office and correspondence address is that of my accountant.
This, even at a cursory glance, is a dogs breakfast of a setup and I'd advise staying well away!
"...the domain is registered to a private individual named Vasil Gyulev."
And yet, that's not the same name as is registered as the director with Companies House.
Legally, the registered office address needs to appear in some form on the website... It doesn't! Likewise, you need to know who you're dealing with exactly; the service has a 'premium' element to it - to whom do you pay the money and for what exactly?
T&Cs are complete and utter hyperbollocks! They don't even state what entity "Flattro" actually is... Is it the limited company Flatro Ltd (the one we don't have proper disclosure for ) or Vasily the Meerkat using that trading style as a sole trader?
For clarity, this is very relevant as company registration seems to pre-date the beginning of actual trading activity by quite some time! - Which suggests a sole trader is behind this!
...Other howlers include;
These T&Cs will be governed by the provisions of the United Nations Convention (Vienna Convention 1980) on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods."
- No they won't you steaming great pillock Mr Tsilkov . As you're apparently based in England they'll be governed by English law whether you like it or not!
A convention is not necessarily a statute (i.e. a law of any kind) and in any case the UK is not even a signatory to that convention! Then there is the inconvenient fact that the CISG applies to commercial goods and products only... Not personal, family, or household goods, auctions, ships, aircraft, or intangibles and services...
What this tells you is that whoever is behind this really doesn't know the business they're in, doesn't know basic business law, and is basically just 'winging it'. - For the love of God don't give them any bank details!
"For clarity, this is very relevant as company registration seems to pre-date the beginning of actual trading activity by quite some time! - Which suggests a sole trader is behind this!"
This should of course read that the company registration post-dates the beginning of trading activity... i.e. he/they must have been running as a sole trader/partnership for some time before actually registering the company; which is fine except that potentially has quite a major impact on anyone who contracted with them before registration.
When something appears too good be true it usually is. Nuff said.
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