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  1. Vortigern
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    Vortigern Electrician's Arms

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    I must say that these are brilliant! Cable stripper, reamer, cutter (very good) pliers, crimper. So up a ladder this one tool can do most operations for terminating cables and a few handy things besides that. I thought bit expensive but... I am not a tool tart though. I was shown these and thought about it then yeh just did it. Really please so much less to swap and carry.
     
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  2. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    When everyone says expensive @ £45 or so - let's face it you couldn't make a pair yourself and they'll last 2 years + if you don't lose them. That's money well spent!
    I do believe that there is nothing stopping you now @Vortigern@Vortigern - off you go!
     
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  3. onions1066
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    onions1066 Electrician's Arms

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    I bought these to keep in my pocket at all times. Saved be 100s of trips back to my tool bag or van.
     
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  4. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    There's no doubt that they are very pretty - don't tell the wife I said that though!
     
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  5. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Knipex Installation Pliers :)

    Love them. Had mine for about 12 months, used them on every job. Can't fault them.
     
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  6. Gavin John Hyde
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    Gavin John Hyde the lights are on but nobody is home

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    when in the forces i developed a condition known as shiny metal syndrome. i accumulated allsorts of random tools and bits of kit. i didnt particularly have a need for. it was just shiny and new and looked like it might be useful.
    I had tools that i did not even know there purpose or what they were for. had it just in case though.
     
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  7. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    It's amazing how much kit we need to do this job to cover every eventuality. I was trying to categorise tools for specific jobs as I work from a car and space is premium BUT when I get that van it will all be in one very strong steel box on 4x 15" wheels (with an engine if I can afford one!)
    Ps - I like tools too! @Gavin John Hyde@Gavin John Hyde
     
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  8. Vortigern
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    They are also great for scoring the sheath of flexibles.
     
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  9. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    Alright, don't go on! We all know that you've got new pliers!
     
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    I think I might... Why did you post that-Damn
     
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  11. Specialist
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    It's ok Gavin your among friends here, we won't judge you ;):).
    Sadly though I have to tell you, there is no known cure for your illness. There is however temporary pain relief available by aquiring more shiny objects :rolleyes::D
     
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  12. Andy78
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    I've seen these for a while now and been wondering why they get such good reviews. They look clunky, overly large, and awkward. Is it a case of trying them out ?
     
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    Hmmm very nice!
     
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  14. Wilko
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    Think I know what this week's beer money's going on :)
     
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  15. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    I've a feeling that the same thought went through SCs mind and look what happened Andy78!

     
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  16. Specialist
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    It's gonna cost you to find out :) unless you can find some nice person to let you try theirs, good luck with that one :D
     
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    iv been looking at these for a while myself.

    They do look long and awkward looking. Glad to know you've rated them highly. Maybe they will be on my xmas list
     
  18. Specialist
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    Could be wrong but I've a suspicion that SC was a tool junkie before she came into the electrical trade ;):)
     
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  19. David M
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    David M I'm often blinded by simplicity Electrician's Arms

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    I tried some out and didn't like them, well not entirely dis-liked. I keep them in my "occasional use" tool kit, that I keep in my car so I don't have to lug round loads of tools to do a quick small job. But for day to day I just couldn't get comfy using them, I guess I'm just old school :)
     
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  20. Specialist
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    Specialist Electrician's Arms

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    Anyone looked at or used the Milwaukee 6 in 1 pliers ?.
     
  21. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Might have been... suffice to say, my Dad is almost at the point where he makes me sign for things I borrow ;) Which reminds me... I really should find his fish tape and take it back next time I visit :D

    Thing is, there is nothing worse than trying to muddle through making do with a bit of kit that is oh so nearly right but not quite. Life is much easier if you have the right gear, or at least that's what I keep telling myself.

    Just been to Edmundson's in Newport... had to drag myself away from the tool wall... me likey :)

    Anyhow with regards to the Knipex Installation Pliers, I generally don't use the ferrule crimper as I prefer the ratchet one I have and I don't use the cable shear part for say splitting the end of T+E, I normally use my wire cutters for that. I think the main reason is the shears are pretty dam sharp and I have no desire to clip the end of a pinky with them. As a result I normally just take my Knipex snips and the installation pliers, which if you're installing in say a loft using Wago boxes is great. Hammer for clipping, snips mainly for splitting the cable, installation pliers for everything else and say a screwdriver for fixing the boxes in place.

    They are quite long and can seem unwieldy but the flexibility from one tool, saves weighing yourself down with too much.

    Stripping cable smaller than 1.5mm can be a bit of a pain, but that doesn't happen that often. The only real issue I have is if I don't grab enough of the CPC when pulling it out to split the sheath, it can slip out as the end section of the pliers is smooth and I have scratched a wall, left and indent on a ceiling before and smacked myself in the face as a result. But other than those minor niggles, I wouldn't be without them.
     
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  22. Andy78
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    I think that's made my mind up for me then. If you are taking cutters along with them it wouldn't cut down on the tools I would carry, just make the pliers I was using bigger and heavier.
     
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  23. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Like so much in life, that's my personal view and experience... your mileage may vary :)
     
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  24. Pete999
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    Got a pair myself, and as a self diagnosed tool tart, no you can't borrow them:p well worth getting some though imo:rolleyes:
     
  25. Specialist
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    Go on Pete, don't be mean. You know you want to :p:D
     
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    No chance, I cherish them, best bit of kit I bought, oh sorry borrowed on long term lease
     
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  27. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Note to self... if you ever bump into Pete, audit your tool bag before going on your merry way :)
     
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  28. Pete999
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    That's slander SC, as if I would? I wouldn't lowest. form of theft nicking other folks tools, anyone caught should be nail gunned to the slab before the concrete is poured.
     
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  29. Vortigern
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    I use an electricians knife to score the cable the split it with my fingers and then open. Gives a nice neat end to the sheath instead of that rough end you get with pulling the earth out. As well I have been told it can stretch the earth and increase the PFC quite dramatically. Bit purist I know but its nice to be a craftsman and do the job nice and neat.
     
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  30. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    I started off with good intentions but soon turned my ways to using the CPC. There is to much chance of damaging insulation using the knife method.
    'Mr Morris' was intent on that method but you can't use it in tight spots so if you can't use it all the time defeats the object. Shame as I felt like I wanted to start on the right path but . . .
     
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    I've heard that about stretching the earth as well, but has anyone ever tried to stretch the CPC? I think you've have to work really hard to stretch it enough.

    I know what you mean about the raggedy edges and I have to say I prefer nice clean edges, but I'm kind of wary of using a knife for fear of damaging the basic insulation.
     
  32. Vortigern
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    Vortigern Electrician's Arms

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    You really don't have to cut deep just score, I was teaching a young guy this (just finished his EAL level 3) and challenged him on how fast his method (split and pull) and mine was. Just score bend and pull beat him timewise no problem, he still said it's a load of ..........!
     
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    I may be a dinosaur but at least I know how to use my tool, this new fangled stuff though intrigues me are they worth investing in?
     
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  34. Andy78
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    What's everyone's opinions on these ?
     
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  35. Specialist
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    Specialist Electrician's Arms

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    Hurts like hell when the pliers come off & smack you in the face as well :mad:, guess how I know :rolleyes::oops:
     
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  36. Pete999
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    Practice make perfect SC never used anything but a knife to strip PVC/PVC
     
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  37. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    Probably not - I'd rather have 6 sets of pliers than 1 that does 6 things
     
  38. SWD
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    Intrigued do this tools serve a purpose and make life a lot easier just asking as I am not a "working" sparks so most of the things I do are done with pair of pliers or side cutters?

    Are the tools worth the investment? Car wise I prefer something raw and "entertaining" so am going backwards as its more fun to drive something more challenging then some shite modern car.
     
  39. Specialist
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    I did use snips & pliers a few times but I prefer an old fashioned Electricians pocket knife or Cable knife (Maybe it's an age thing).
     
  40. Pete999
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    Really????
     
  41. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    The more shine the better! Looks great in a snap on tool box too!
     
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  42. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Never used them, I might be tempted to try them out if more of our fixed installation cabling was round. Watched the video, liked the look.. handy for tight spaces, but as I say, if more of our cable was round overall I might be tempted.
     
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    I'll have to treat myself to a decent knife (any excuse) and give it a whirl. May be do some practising on cable I pull out. Any recommendations for a good knife that's going to last?

    As for the youngster... I don't get it... I appreciate advice and constructive criticism, it's how we learn to do things better. And well, if I can get a neater finish, quicker... WIN WIN! :D
     
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    Easier to maintain too!
     
  45. Vortigern
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    Vortigern Electrician's Arms

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    Klein do a really good hard steel electricians knife its not VDE but then I always recommend not stripping live cable but there are VDE ones.

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