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  1. Sloany92
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    Been trying to work out if I can legally install a 240 panel with 24v outputs within a poultry farm as an addition. I have zero qualifications but am prepared to train. From what I’ve read so far you just need to be competent, which leads to which qualifications would prove this ? Would the work need to be signed off?

    I’m looking along the lines of a fast track course, if you know any companies I could approach for information that would be great !
    Thanks in advance
     
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    Coming on here saying things like that, will get you loads of help I'm sure, sorry for being blunt, but many on here have worked hard to get qualified and experienced.
     
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    Even with proper training it will take you years to be trained to a standard required to design istallations in an agricultural environment, which is in itself a special location in the wiring regulations.
     
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    whilsrt it might be desirable to kill off farmers, i don't think it's allowed. get someone qualified and experienced in agricultural work to do this. you couls assist and learn as well.
     
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  5. Sloany92
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    That’s all I needed to know just was finding it difficult to get a clear cut answer wasn’t trying to undermine anyone .
    Thanks
     
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    :). At least you asked .
     
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    I beleive most of the "fast track" courses only cater for domestic installation. For commercial, I don't think you can fast track into that. Commercial work is relatively unregulated. However there are statutes that apply such as EAWR and H&S act requiring skill and training as well as experience. Any insurance you have would be invalidated if you did the work.
     
  8. Sloany92
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    This is exactly what I’m trying to establish because getting clear cut information on the commercial industry is a struggle. I didn’t think it would be easy just being pressured by my boss and going by information that people have given myself !
    Though to gain experience could I shadow a electrician a couple of times and then be classed as experienced as the job will be near enough identical no matter on location ? In my opinion it seems best to leave it to the professionals as stated but in terms of investing in the future to be competent what would have to be done ?
    Obviously the best option is to do an NVQ be an apprentice and learn but its not viable and doesn’t make sense, hence why I asked about the fast track, these companies have led me to be believe that I would be above board after completion of one of those courses. So I’m grateful for the replies confirming what I thought.
     
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    Think more like 3 years to gain formal qualifications plus a couple of years on the job.
    Only then MIGHT you be considered as experienced.
     
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    these fast track courses lead to becoming a Domestic Installer, NOT an Electrician. as the name implies, you'd only be able to work in the domestic sector.and don'tlisten to the claims that you can earn £50k/annum. you could do if you undercut all the competition and worked 7 12 hour days/weeek.
     
  11. MisterE
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    If the task is to be repeated I suggest that your boss considers setting up a contract (by tender?) with a suitably qualified and experienced local firm. You might find that it's cheaper than you (he?) thinks when all the training, equipment and insurance costs are taken into consideration.
     
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    It's not dead/injured Farmers that's the problem, it's the animals more people are concerned about , apparently.
    You can't go giving them a shock just before they're slaughtered..
     
  13. davesparks
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    Could you describe the job a bit better?

    ‘A 240 panel with 24V outputs’ could mean anything from a simple power supply to a complex industrial control system
     
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    AC DC -24V- Question ? ... corrosive answers.
    Livestock are more sensitive than humans forget 30mA, 10mA is appropriate.
    ( One of a few forum shockers I've learnt )
     
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    Thats the Halal method around here!
     
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