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Maybe its time to stop looking at the op as being the culprit regards a installation and its suitability
What is a home lab & do you not have a smart meter that shows usage (ours does it shows wattage usage in real time)
Your LL only obligation is to have safe electrical system which from the sounds of it you do.
If wanted to a particular set up that you should have checked it out properly before signing the rental agreement
Your choice is are
A)ask the LL to upgrade and spilt the ring at his cost(But he probably will tell you to jog on)
B)Ask if you can the work done at your expense
C)adjust your usage
D)Starting saving to move out
I agree with this.
I would not expect the landlord to foot the bill if the installation is considered safe as is. I'm not a freeloader by any means!
As for saving to move out, I'm currently saving to buy a place which will not have the limitations imposed on me from renting so I'd rather not move, point B seems to be the way to go, once I've clarified why the EICR states I should have two rings but have only one.
Been ever so slightly cheeky with my wording suggesting there may have been an unauthorised modification that they're not aware of but actually at this point it is my thinking.
Given they have a contract with a local electrical contractor, the same one that did the EICR, I should at very least get an answer on it.
At this stage, I could ask if they're able to sort it out at my expense if the current state is intentional.
Either split the rings back, or run me a 32A radial to somewhere where I can plug in my stuff.
It seems, though, that splitting the rings would be the most beneficial for use after I leave and I'd be happy with that plan of action.
Has anyone suggested this?
I don't think so
But if the Landlord won't have an new EICR conducted, then the OP, at their own cost could get one done .......................but the landlord will be under no obligation to act on its findings
but as he's in Scotland the EICR that has been "done" is probably one not to be trusted as its almost certainly been done for a rock bottom price to "tick" a box ............
This may be the case Murdoch as there are some limitations specified on it.
Specifically:
3. Purpose of the report:
"Landlords safety report."
Extent of the electrical installation covered by this report:
"100% of the installation tested. 10% visually inspected. In accordance with item 3.8.2 of Guidance Note 3."
Agreed and operational limitations of the inspection and testing (include reasons and person agreed with):
"Characteristics of Primary Supply Overcurrent device. No testing of HVAC control cables. Routing of cables in prescribed zones or within mechanical protection. No lifting of floor boards or inspection of loft space."
I see no name of person that this was agreed with.
Why?
What makes you think this is necessary?
Those aren't limitations - would you be happy that the inspection included pulling the property apart to check where cables run?
As for the 100%, 10% 3.8.2 - that's very normal
I could count on the fingers of 1 hand how many landlords I deal with who want a 100% circuits and 100% of accessories visually inspected - the time to conduct this would make the inspection too expensive IMHO
Why don't you write to the Landlord and express your concerns about the validity of the EICR and your finding and see what happens next
Comments on here aren't really going to help you
And finally why have you chosen to conceal your profile?
Hum............ maybe your "load" is outside the scope of normal household consumption.
Are you running a business from home?
Best you engage in communications with the landlord .......
FYI - 2 ring circuits is relatively new ......... there are 100,000 's of thousands of homes in the UK with 1 socket circuit - houses and flats.
In your first post you stated you are studying for the 18th edition - so you should understand that circuit designs are simply that - a design based on a considered load of circuit(s) - specific items over 2Kw and not supplied with a 13A plug fitted should be on their own circuits, as should immersions ...
An EICR done on an empty flat can take no account of possible future uses - over potential overloads ................... so an EICR conducted now with you and all your IT may well decide that there is a distinct possibility of overload ................. no 2 occupants are the same, nor are there requirements
Hope this helps.
i smell a £50 EICR. think murdoch mentioned that also. lost track of the number of EICRs I've lost due to cheapskate LAs wanting "on the cheap".
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