Discuss Joint between 16mm &1.5mm! in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

Question.
Why did the builder put in 16mm in the first place?
Tell him to dig it up and put in the right size.

or

Tie the cores to a jcb and gently pull it. It will either stretch the 16mm's down to a usable csa, or pull the cores out from within the armour. If that works, then tie a flex onto the other end and pull it in as the 16 comes out.
The "optimistic" badge is below, just about...……………....…. here!
Looks like a rainbow

I gave you an optimistic, for been optimistic about getting an optimistic
 
I've been looking in my recycling bag and have found some old CU brass connection blocks, I am thinking judicious use of an angle grinder and some heat shrink all housed in a wiska box and Bob's your uncle.......!
 
If the size of the conductor is going to be reduced from 16mm to 1.5mm then, leaving aside the IPxx rating, and providing its all tidy and insulated, could someone please explain why the suggestion of using a single strand into a wago would be frowned upon. To me it seems a practical way to reduce the conductor. What am i missing?
 
So do you condone that form of butchery then? Should have had the right sized cable installed in the first place, and not left it to a builder,who probably thought "got some 10mm in the shed, I know I'll use that"

Well we are where we are with things here. Can't see its going to cause probs for this particular example? Have you never gone to bed at night, and not brushed your teeth. :D
 
providing its all tidy and insulated, could someone please explain why the suggestion of using a single strand into a wago would be frowned upon.

Electrically, of course, it would be fine. It's the ethics that are screwed up here. Leaving strands out of a termination violates a fundamental rule that is deeply imprinted in any (good) electrician's brain. Plus the Wago instructions would probably be disobeyed in two or three different ways.

A technically correct solution would be as suggested by Shaun1, to terminate the two cables into appropriate-sized DIN terminals and link them with commoning bars. Or to crimp on some suitable ring terminals (e.g. 6mm hole) and connect them via DIN-rail mounted insulated stud terminals. I have used that method before, for widely disparate cables sizes. There are all sorts of halfway house options, like lap crimps. Soldering, if done with skill, could make a nice job of it.

But I might still go for the 1-strand-in-a-Wago. In an outdoor terminal box, the less exposed metal and fewer things to corrode or create leakage, the better. From a purely engineering standpoint, provided the heatshrink job is well executed, it might be the most suitable technique. I leave for the reader the agonising consideration of inter-strand resistance after a few years of moisture ingress, vs. the equalisation of current between strands along the length of the cable.
 
Anyone who just uses a couple of strands in a termination and cuts the rest off should be put on some sort of register.
 
If the size of the conductor is going to be reduced from 16mm to 1.5mm then, leaving aside the IPxx rating, and providing its all tidy and insulated, could someone please explain why the suggestion of using a single strand into a wago would be frowned upon. To me it seems a practical way to reduce the conductor. What am i missing?
...because it would only work properly if the same few strands were connected at the other end...?:p
 
Clearly, as w0z said, you have to be sure the same few strands are connected at each end...
but somehow I don't think my new RJ45 crimper is going to be man enough for the job...

(nor the cat6 cable, to be fair)
 

Reply to Joint between 16mm &1.5mm! in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

Similar Threads

Hi, while carrying out an EICR at a farm cottage on Friday i came up against a problem early on. Whilst measuring the Ze the reading i obtained...
Replies
22
Views
2K
Just after some general advice. Been asked to look at a job where a builder/landscaper has already laid cable for some garden lighting.1.5mm 3...
Replies
19
Views
2K
Hi guys I have some industrial lighting circuits to wire in a workshop and was after some fresh ideas/suggestions as to how i could best do this...
Replies
12
Views
1K
Have an existing old client with what's best described as a sprawling small-holding of a property. There's an armoured external supply which...
Replies
25
Views
3K
I'm unsure if I should be an electrician or maybe another trade is better. I have basically completed my first year of a foundation in...
Replies
9
Views
668

OFFICIAL SPONSORS

Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Electrician Courses Green Electrical Goods PCB Way Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Pushfit Wire Connectors Electric Underfloor Heating Electrician Courses
These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then CLICK HERE and post a thread with who you are, and we'll send you some stats etc

Electrical Forum

Welcome to the Electrical Forum at ElectriciansForums.net. The friendliest electrical forum online. General electrical questions and answers can be found in the electrical forum.
This website was designed, optimised and is hosted by Untold Media. Operating under the name Untold Media since 2001.
Back
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website. For the best site experience please disable your AdBlocker.

I've Disabled AdBlock