Kitchen 'Smoke' alarm?

[Timbo_1975]

Refit in a 2-up-2-down cottage with added Utility adjoining kitchen. Have 1st fixed interconnects in utility and landing for mains s/alarms.

Customer asked what was the position on having a heat sensor also in the kitchen?

What are peoples thoughts?

 

[i=p/u]

i know we installed them in kitchens of council houses, isit 300mm away from walls and 600mm from cooker

 

[i=p/u]

yeah meaning had to in kitchen, isit in building regs??? i

 

[Electricalserv]

Smokes can't go in kitchens because of false alarms etc. I'm sure heat alarms are only needed when kitchen is not seperated from other areas by a door

 

[robsparky1975]

Check the building regs,the way i read it was that they dont want you to fit them in kitchens,only to fit them if there is no door in relation to the circulation area between the kitchen and ground floor and then upstairs landing/bedrooms,me personally i would encourage,kitchen,hall,landing.I have had to do housing association works and they were in every habitable room,5 smokes and heat in kitchen,cant,perhaps a bit over the top to the regs but for the sake of a few £££ what price can anyone put on a life.

 

[truckster]

I had a building inspector recommend it to a customer and when I spoke to him he said it wasn't a requirement but he thought it was a good idea. Can't disagree really.

 

[Electricalserv]

I had a building inspector recommend it to a customer and when I spoke to him he said it wasn't a requirement but he thought it was a good idea. Can't disagree really.

When it raises false alarms it is a problem...The boy who cried wolf and all that!

 

[truckster]

If its a heat detector it shouldn't cause problems

 

[robsparky1975]

If its a heat detector it shouldn't cause problems

yep,i think they are rated to go off at 85C,so false alarms quite unlikely,most probable place for a fire to start,if that goes off its not the missus burning your dinner,i always fit heats in kitchens,customer always agrees even when they have a door.

 

[bugsy]

Rate of rise heat detectors

 

[rallyandy]

Hi Timbo, as far as i,m aware according to BS5839 - 6:2004 alarms are fitted on a risk assessment being carried out, but also states that if the property is new build or materially altered then a heat detector must be fitted in the kitchen if not separated from a hall by a door, but if it is an existing property being fitted with a fire alarm system then a heat detector must be fitted in the kitchen. i might be wrong ( sometimes am gulp lol). hope this helps

check out www.aico.co.uk or BS5839 - 6:2004 and the Regulatory Reform Order 2005 (RRO) which the fire brigade seem to quote chapter and verse lol