L & N at the switch

[Snapester]

So i heard a fellow sparky saying taking L&N to the light switch is not allowed and is classed as bad practice!
Is this true I've found it a good way to keep things tidy when wiring lots of spots etc.
Thoughts?

 

[Pete999]

Perfectly OKYDOKY

 

[trev]

He's an idiot, take no notice of him. Or you could put him on the spot by asking what reg number prohibits the practice. I would.

 

[davesparks]

I find it's a good way of keeping things messy in a switch back box if you aren't careful.
I have no issue with installing this way if the situation calls for it though.

 

[Andy78]

I install like this when it's appropriate. As Trev says, get him to point out the reg that forbids this method... should be good for a squirm.

 

[uksparks]

I know of a reg number, take a look at this: 559.6.1.100 in BGB, or in the BYB 559.5.1.208

 

[sparkee]

You could point out that hager switches have a neutral termination on their light switches. I cant see any problem with this method and use it most of the time myself.

 

[uksparks]

That reg says "consideration" so tell him to sling his hook if he wants it wired at the switch.

 

[R G]

Nothing wrong with that , makes good sense when fittings are compact and avoids concealed joint boxes , good for testing and fault finding as well..

 

[Octopus]

Just don't use 16mm back boxes!

 

[uksparks]

Just don't use 16mm back boxes!

I could shoot people who do that!

 

[davesparks]

I could shoot people who do that!

Do what? Use 16mm backboxes for switches? Why?

 

[uksparks]

Because there's never much space, especially when someone says can you fit a dimmer

 

[marc8]

Just remember if using a connector block for neutrals it requires to be fixed to back box,
we just use wago's not fitting back can just be left loose

 

[telectrix]

what reg. says connector block must be fixed to box?

 

[shanky887614]

Just remember if using a connector block for neutrals it requires to be fixed to back box,
we just use wago's not fitting back can just be left loose

wrong, wago's are not mf unless there in there enclosure e.g. cable restraints used etc

so would need fixing

 

[7029 dave]

This is the way these days, but EN54 won't like it. :smile5::smile5::smile5::smile5:

 

[Andy78]

what reg. says connector block must be fixed to box?

Heard this one many times. I think it's a NICEIC assessor special.

 

[ferg]

Just don't use 16mm back boxes!

I recently went to change an fcu to a switched FCU.

Unfortunately the brand I use wouldn't fit in the existing 16mm back box.

Although to be fair neither did the original.

 

[Silly Sausage]

wrong, wago's are not mf unless there in there enclosure e.g. cable restraints used etc

so would need fixing

So why would the connection require fixing?