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  1. littlespark
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    littlespark Electrician's Arms

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    Ive got a customer asking me about an LED strip around the perimeter of a bedroom. There is an existing coving which will be removed, and a new one fitted a little lower, with the LED tape hidden above the coving.
    She has mentioned that there is going to be a mural painted onto the ceiling and would like it lit by the LED's.

    Does anyone know a good LED strip. Easy to install, corner connections etc.
    All I've worked on so far is the sticky backed flexible tape that can be fiddly to get straight.
    Roughly 18m total length. Can this be done with only one driver, and are they available as dimmable... in case the customer asks

    What would be the best way to mount the tape? On the wall, projecting horizontally into the room, and lighting up the majority of the mural, but maybe visible or on the top of the coving, shining straight up and only lighting the edge of the ceiling?
     
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    To avoid any unwanted shadows/lines the led strip will need to be mounted at between 45 & 60 degrees to skim across the top of the coving, allowing the light to feather off naturally into the ceiling.
    Simply mount some angled batten along the wall behind the coving, apply silver sticky back tape to the batten(vent pipe tape). This has 2 uses; a very good clean surface for the tape to be stuck too and also very important it will act as a heat sink..
    You will need to go for 24 volt led strips, installed in 9m lengths..
    Best way to dim them would be via Dali or 0-10v..
     
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    Agree. I have worked with led tape a lot. The quality can vary dramatically. I have now settled on Aurora lighting as it is good quality and consistent. I use there aluminium profile to mount the tape into and fit an opal diffuser to it, they do a 45 deg version. There drivers are also very good.

    LEDLine™ PRO Single Colour Flexible Strip - https://enlitelighting.com/gb/ProductDetail/EN-ST224

    Corner Profile - https://enlitelighting.com/gb/ProductDetail/EN-CH104

    90W IP67 1-10V Dimmable24V Constant Voltage Driver - https://enlitelighting.com/gb/ProductDetail/AU-LEDD9024

    There is also a CRI90 version if colour rendering is crucial.
     
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    I don't want to ask what your customer does for a living, but do tell us ;o))))))
     
  5. littlespark
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    littlespark Electrician's Arms

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    What can I say? My customer likes murals.

    She had one on her living room wall above the fireplace, but clever builder used polythene with masking tape to “protect” it when he was doing some work.
    Took the tape off, and the edge of the mural came with it.
     
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    littlespark Electrician's Arms

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    The property is a bungalow, so drivers will be in attic space above.
    I would have like just one driver, so the whole strip turns on together. I’ve seen short tapes in kitchens where there is a fraction of a second between different drivers on the same switch.
     
  8. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    I've done a couple of installs, but had the tapes premade cut to length, last one was a kitchen. Had one driver/power supply per switch. Can't remember supplier, but they were having compatibility issues with their app (iPhone etc), so just used a remote. That was back in March 2018. I've been using Phillips Hue lamps in my house at the mo', using some of their outdoor tape in my garden, and still few issues with apps & 'scene' settings.
     
  9. john watts
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    john watts www.instyleled.co.uk

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    INSTYLE LED
    It is a bit of a minefield when it comes to LED strip suppliers. Do check the reviews (the genuine ones).
    In terms of installation, you could use an LED strip inside an LED profile so that the strip stick well into place and is straight lines. I would always avoid connectors as they can be fiddly and unreliable (can stop working if not properly connected). Get the supplier to make the strips to length for you to save the hassle of soldering / cutting on site.
    You can wire all strips back to one mains dimmable power supply / or remote / RF wall controller.
    Be sure that you wire the strips in parallel, usually no more than 5m wired in series so usually you would take longer leads back to the power supply in a central point.
    However you install the strips be 100% sure that you cannot see the LED light source direct, you should be aiming to get the glow effct without seeing the LED's in anyway, it looks 1000x more professional.
    I would recommend uses a higher wattage LED strip with the strip facing upwards, you will get a lot of 'light spill' into the room which would still light up the ceiling.
     
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