MCB, RCD & AFDD all in one

[Zdb]

These things are blooming huge!



Oh and £170

 

[Octopus]

How stupid is that

 

[SparkyChick]

No incentive to make them smaller... bigger devices = bigger boards = more money for the manufacturers

 

[buzzlightyear]

These things are blooming huge!

commercial only for them ,you want be putting them in domestic ,it would be the film jaws ,we need a bigger consumer unit or bigger boat .

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Nice one device to trip, 3 possible causes.
Should make troubleshooting a doddle.

 

[Pete999]

I believe they have produced a 1 module one.

 

[Toneyz]

No incentive to make them smaller... bigger devices = bigger boards = more money for the manufacturers

These builders will have to wake up and allow bigger electrical plant rooms.

 

[Zdb]

So the test button is for the RCD and not the AFDD I'm guessing.

Anybody know if there is a prescribed disconnection time that these AFDDs will have to meet?

Just wondering how they can be tested. New setting on the multifunction testers will be next I reckon £££

 

[Deleted member 105166]

The all in one 3 module width jobby from MEM Eaton is actually cheaper than the equivalent from Siemens, a 1 module width AFDD that mates with a 2 module width SP+N RCBO.
At the moment there's not many players in the marketplace, hence the ridiculously high pricing. That will change over the next 6-12 months.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

So the test button is for the RCD and not the AFDD I'm guessing.

Anybody know if there is a prescribed disconnection time that these AFDDs will have to meet?

Just wondering how they can be tested. New setting on the multifunction testers will be next I reckon £££

There isn’t any way to test AFDDs, without reducing their longevity or making them unserviceable.
All you do is look at the indicator, if it’s green, good to go.
If it’s red, replace.

 

[Simonslimline]

Its all getting out of hand to be honest. Electricians are being taken for total mugs these days. Glad i dont do any domestic work anymore.

 

[rapparee]

Its all getting out of hand to be honest. Electricians are being taken for total mugs these days. Glad i dont do any domestic work anymore.

I've never done domestic

Will industrial electricians be exempt from fitting these things, are they only to be fitted in residential properties

I have literally no idea what they are for

I haven't been paying attention to be honest.

 

[Octopus]

I have literally no idea what they are for

I don’t think the IET do either

It’s the manufacturers on JPEL who have been pushing them .... because there is money to be made

As for introducing them..... unless there is sensibly priced test equipment they need to stay on the back burner .....

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I haven’t read or purchased a copy of the 18th, but I thought someone said these were advised for domestic and compulsory for the rest?

 

[Deleted member 105166]

These things have been around a while across the pond and it seems there is test equipment available, e.g. Greenlee AFI-100. As has already been suggested, I reckon the MFT manufacturers will waste no time jumping on the bandwagon and launch a new range of 18th ed. testers with this as new functionality.

 

[rapparee]

These things have been around a while across the pond and it seems there is test equipment available, e.g. Greenlee AFI-100. As has already been suggested, I reckon the MFT manufacturers will waste no time jumping on the bandwagon and launch a new range of 18th ed. testers with this as new functionality.

Fluke T+PRO Electrical Tester 95969327923 | eBay - https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fluke-T-PRO-Electrical-Tester/192561592597?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D52962%26meid%3D8571d8a5e7bf47c19c22ab9f028b3791%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D192561592597%26itm%3D192561592597&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aad82fb35-82d4-11e8-9456-74dbd1803e5b%7Cparentrq%3A7af254541640add89ecbb937fff225ca%7Ciid%3A1

Well at least fluke do a tester, so it's another one for the collection.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Fluke T+PRO Electrical Tester 95969327923 | eBay - https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fluke-T-PRO-Electrical-Tester/192561592597?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D52962%26meid%3D8571d8a5e7bf47c19c22ab9f028b3791%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D192561592597%26itm%3D192561592597&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aad82fb35-82d4-11e8-9456-74dbd1803e5b%7Cparentrq%3A7af254541640add89ecbb937fff225ca%7Ciid%3A1

Well at least fluke do a tester, so it's another one for the collection.

That’s a voltage tester?

 

[Simonslimline]

I just meant that as i work for a big company it doesn't matter to me personally as we fit whatever the spec is for the client.

The price for complying with these new regs is going to be a pain for small domestic jobs when changing boards etc. Just more expense for everyone.

I've never done domestic

Will industrial electricians be exempt from fitting these things, are they only to be fitted in residential properties

I have literally no idea what they are for

I haven't been paying attention to be honest.

 

[Simonslimline]

I just meant that as i work for a big company it doesn't matter to me personally as we fit whatever the spec is for the client.

The price for complying with these new regs is going to be a pain for small domestic jobs when changing boards etc. Just more expense for everyone.

I've never done domestic

Will industrial electricians be exempt from fitting these things, are they only to be fitted in residential properties

I have literally no idea what they are for

I haven't been paying attention to be honest.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I think I must be getting confused!
I thought these AFDDs were nothing more than surge protectors?