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  1. bigspark17
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    bigspark17 Electrician's Arms

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    Obviously bs7671 governs us in our electrical trade, and to the 18th we will need to use metal clips in all areas where cables are surface mount. So do data/cctv engineers have to use metal clips ect to prevent from premature collapse and who governs them to do so?
     
  2. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    bs7671 .
     
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  3. Strima
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    Strima Electrician's Arms

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    Data engineers should be working to standards such as BS6701 and BSEN50174, these basically compliment BS7671 so they should be installing to prevent premature collapse etc.
     
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  4. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    CHARLTEC ELECTRICAL LTD
    I'm using metal conduit saddles metal cable ties and P clips. Data and alarm guys come in and just lash it across the ceiling and plastic cable ties whats the point of me doing what I'm doing just for them to do that.
     
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  5. Adam W
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    Adam W Electrician's Arms

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    I think we all know that they should be using fire resistant clips but they'll continue to operate as a law unto them selves either out of ignorance or laziness, because why would you need to learn how to be some kind of builder when you're clever enough to do computery stuff? :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Matthewd29
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    Matthewd29 Regular EF Member

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    They are undoubtedly the laziest people i have seen with their cabling so they'll probably ignore that too
     
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  7. bigspark17
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    bigspark17 Electrician's Arms

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    This is my point what the hell is the point of us doing it if bt/data/sky/cctv cabling dont adhere to the same standard. Might it be part of the fire officers/BCO checklist at the end and refuse to sign job off unless it changed.
     
  8. essex
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    essex Electrician's Arms

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    Because you want to remain proffesional.
     
  9. essex
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    essex Electrician's Arms

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    Data installers are like the traffic wardens of the trade.

    Fire installers are PCSOs.

    Domestic sparks are police officers.

    Industrial sparks are counter terrorism.
     
  10. Strima
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    Strima Electrician's Arms

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    Telecoms sparks are the devil and must be burned...
     
  11. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    So why the dislike then?
     
  12. essex
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    essex Electrician's Arms

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    Wiltshire
    That you said you could not see the point in following the Regs if others never.
     
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