minor works limitations

[leespeed]

anyone know the correct wordings or scenarios for limitations on a minor works for not doing the ir or r1 + r2 test ..
.like unable to take cover off db or cannot fully isolate db etc

 

[IQ Electrical]

anyone know the correct wordings or scenarios for limitations on a minor works for not doing the ir or r1 + r2 test ..
.like unable to take cover off db or cannot fully isolate db etc

For me, it would be exceptional to have limitations on what is already a very limited document but you would use phrases such as:

"unable to complete R1+R2 testing due to........"

"Unable to carry out insulation resistance testing due to......"

Each limitation devalues the final document.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Limitations are not allowed on a Certificate.
They are just for inspection reports.

 

[leespeed]

there is a limitations section on a minor works cert but if your working on a circuit you can only isolate by removin the fuse and its an old hrc board thats 3 phase and live as ---- i,d say you can use limitations ..........commercial minor works not domestic ...............etc

 

[Risteard]

The tests required for the Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate are the minimum that are required, as such it wouldn't be reasonable to not carry them out.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

there is a limitations section on a minor works cert but if your working on a circuit you can only isolate by removin the fuse and its an old hrc board thats 3 phase and live as ---- i,d say you can use limitations ..........commercial minor works not domestic ...............etc

Not on any based on the model forms in BS7671 there isn't.

 

[leespeed]

also if the nuetrals and earths are not correctly numbered and just rammed any where for you to identify the correct cable to do the r1 + r2 or the ir test .............


or cant turn board off due to other people needing power ...etc

 

[IQ Electrical]

there is a limitations section on a minor works cert but if your working on a circuit you can only isolate by removin the fuse and its an old hrc board thats 3 phase and live as ---- i,d say you can use limitations ..........commercial minor works not domestic ...............etc

On the IET model forms, there is no distinction between commercial/domestic MEIWC but I notice on the NICEIC MEIWC there is a box labelled: "Agreed limitations, if any, on the inspection and testing".

Rather poor form I'd say.

 

[leespeed]

sorry spin im on about niceic certs again

 

[leespeed]

yes iq there is ...............makes the job harder if your on a really old db thats like a mad womans knitting inside .....
to unsafe to work live (which we all know is a no no unless absolutely neccessary )

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Do the NICEIC MWCs list more tests than on the BS7671 model forms?

 

[IQ Electrical]

Do the NICEIC MWCs list more tests than on the BS7671 model forms?

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File2005.pdf

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I don't see how such a Certificate can comply with BS7671.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

A very common and reasonable limitation when testing an altered existing circuit is a L-N IR test......not always practical to carry out,in fact I cant remember the last time I did....IMO the limitations box on NIC forms is essential.

 

[Des 56]

Seems like all these schemes just love tick boxes

 

[leespeed]

yes but if you cant isolate the db you cant do the ir test ?
i e very old hrc board or a board with an isolator that wont let you open the cover unless its in off position