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Nothing wrong with a good healthy debate, as long as it stays friendly it's what the forums here for imo.
 
Would you use an OCPD for fault protection on a cable?
I had thought an MCB was an OCPD that was used for fault protection (via loop impedance) - so, yes I thought 543.6.1 applied.
Is it your view MCB do not provide fault protection?
 
Nothing wrong with a good healthy debate, as long as it stays friendly it's what the forums here for imo.

Isn't it going off topic; the OP has asked several times the same question, our 'healthy' debate is not helping?

It was a simple question on how to connect a luminaire?
 
Who's Ivan? Sorry couldn't resist. Hit the dumb button.
 
You really do not need to stay. Ian is highly competent and if I can learn then why not continue debating?
Because it is confusing to the O.P. and will give up and not return.
This just goes to show the mentality of same (not all) house bashers (new development homes) instead of parking the CPC in a terminal block, Wago etc. cut it off as it is the easiest and quickest option.
 
I thought that "double insulated" allowed two-core flex and non-earthed chargers, etc, but the installation connection point (socket or ceiling rose, etc, including the switch) had to have the CPC present and terminated in some way (not just cut back). I did not this specifically mentioned. Any two-core installed cables I thought had to be SELV (i.e. no more than 50 volts rms - and floating w.r.t. earth).
 
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Since we are debating this here is my quandry. The regs say every item of equipment and accessory should have a c.p.c. available, common sense particularly for the situation originally posted, changing class 2 fitting for class 1. Problem is if you introduce an "earth" to a double insulated enclosure, by definition it is no longer double insulated. Can anyone answer this ??
 

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