Outdoor Security Light Question

[Hap Hazard]

Hi All,
As an ex-sparks who has been out of the game for nearly 20years, I decided to post a question here that hopefully someone may be able toanswer?
I am having a frustrating time in trying to locate asupplier for a soffit mounted security light. Naturally in past years Halogenfloods etc were not designed to run directly under a wood or plasticsoffit/eves. With the advent of low wattage LED floods these days however, heatsoak is not a problem, yet here in the UK I do not seem to find anyone that manufacturesa directional spot or bulkhead light that is designed to be mounted under thesoffit/eves.
Ironically, the only ones that I have seen on the net available in the UK thatcan be mounted in this way is solar powered PIR security lights.

Alternatively, I can install a couple of PAR 38 typefittings fitted with LED lamps, however trying to find a horizontally mountedPIR with any sort of weather rating is nigh impossible on the net.

Anyone got any suggestions on either light fittings or stand-alonePIR’s designed to mount horizontally, can you give me some info on them? (I amafter a single directional spot, and a bi-direction twin fitting).
Frustratingly, they are available in the States, but asalways (if you excuse the pun), the UK seems to be light years behind in choice….

Regards,
HH

 

[D Skelton]

Draw an image of the type of fitting you want and the way in which you want to mount it, scan it in and post it on here. You might get more help then. Even I'm not entirely sure what it is you're after.

 

[Hap Hazard]

Draw an image of the type of fitting you want and the way in which you want to mount it, scan it in and post it on here. You might get more help then. Even I'm not entirely sure what it is you're after.

Sorry of my previous is not clear in what I am asking...(nor do I know why the post is missing spaces between many of the words!)

Basically all the outdoor lights I can find are designed to be vertically mounted, whereas I a looking to mount a fitting horizontally UNDER the soffit/eves.

Here is the sort of mounting I am talking about.... Patio009.jpg Photo by greggable | Photobucket

Rgds,

HH

 

[uksparks]

I think I know what type of light you are looking for, I removed one for a customer because it broke but struggled to find a replacement that would mount in the fashion.

 

[pitkin2020]

You want something like this http://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/lap-pr...rolled-spotlight-graphite-230v-w-2500lm/67936 but you want to mount it underneath??
A large L shaped bracket would solve it surely??

 

[Octopus]

Look at the time guard led units

 

[HandySparks]

This Timeguard TLW3000 PIR switch is IP44 rated and will fix to horizontal or vertical surfaces:
3Kw Night Eye PIR Heat/Light Controller
There's a link to the installation instructions on the page.

The usual sort of small LED floodlight can be fixed to an overhanging horizontal surface:
10 Watt Slimline LED Floodlight - LED Flood & Security Lights

The angle of the light may be slightly limited, but they have a very wide beam angle and I usually fix these directed mostly downwards, to avoid glare.

 

[Hap Hazard]

Thanks Murdoch and HandySparks...

Timeguard PIR way to go forward. I was finding it hard to locate one with any suitable IP ratings for out doors. Will look at teaming it up with some PAR 38 fittings fitted with LED lamps.

Will put an order in today!

Regards,

HH

 

[HandySparks]

If you really need the PAR 38 style, then go ahead. Otherwise, a small LED flood is likely to be better and cheaper. For illuminating small areas of paving or walkway from just above head height, a 10W will be fine. For larger areas (whole garden) then more power is needed. If going bigger, then mounting the light higher up is preferable if at all possible (assuming that your photos are of the actual location).


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[Hap Hazard]

Thanks for your hep HandySparks, much appreciated.

The photo was a random one off the net.

As for the square security lights hat have grown up around the halogen days, I find that in their design, they are uninspiring, and loo like they have been designed by an ex-German Panzer designer.....industrial and ugly, whereas the PAR 38's have a little more, but not much, fair to them. Also the PAR38's will cover the hole the wire comes out of.... much more neater..

Thanks again,

HH