Outdoor socket notifiable

[067256]

Sorry to go over old ground but just need clarification. I have extended the ring main in a kitchen and customer now wants an outdoor socket. Is this now notifiable?
I believe not as ammended rules state notifiable for new DB, new circuit, work in special location?
Thanks.

 

[Badged01]

In which country did you do the work -- or propose to do the work?

 

[trev]

I think outside is still notifiable but check in Approved Document P

 

[trev]

Assuming you're in England or Wales of course just like Badged suggested

 

[NickD]

Sorry to go over old ground but just need clarification. I have extended the ring main in a kitchen and customer now wants an outdoor socket. Is this now notifiable?
I believe not as ammended rules state notifiable for new DB, new circuit, work in special location?
Thanks.

Was the ring extension in a *kitchen* not notifiable in the first place? Note to self to get up to speed with the Building Regs changes.

 

[trev]

Afaik Nick kitchens were taken out of the scope of it. Could be wrong though, there's a first time for everything

 

[Badged01]

Part P has different rules depending on whether you are in gods country (Wales) or in the badlands (England) ....... the part of the kingdom we are hopefully getting rid of soon (Scotland) has its own way of doing things!

 

[067256]

Haha....i am in Badlands.
Just read ADP and notifiable for installation of a new circuit, new consumer unit and addition, alteration in special location.

 

[trev]

Yes but is outside mentioned in the definition of a special location?

 

[Badged01]

In that case as I understand it in the badlands you can extend your ring and go outdoors without being reported!

 

[Badged01]

Yes but is outside mentioned in the definition of a special location?

Location with a bath/shower, sauna or swimming pool. Outdoors and kitchens is now fine for the cowboys to do what they want ....

 

[067256]

Yes but is outside mentioned in the definition of a special location?

No, just the usual containing a bath or shower. A sauna or swimming pool.

 

[067256]

Location with a bath/shower, sauna or swimming pool. Outdoors and kitchens is now fine for the cowboys to do what they want ....

Quite surprised....and amazed after reading through the AD.

 

[Andy78]

Not quite.
The definition of a bathroom special location in BS7671 is different to a bathroom special location in part P 2013.
Work is only notifiable in England if alterations have taken place within the zones defined in section 701 of the regs.

 

[HandySparks]

Approved doc P, 2013 edition:

In England the scope of notifiable work has been cut back to:
New CU;
New circuit;
Change or addition to a special location, which is bath or shower zones 0, 1 and 2 only, plus rooms containing a swimming pool or sauna heater.

So no notification required in this case (in England).

 

[trev]

Every day's a school day, cheers lads.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I have lot the plot reading this thread, but i assume you are putting a socket outside. If it is fixed to the house wall, then it is not notifiable.

 

[Octopus]

Don't forget a rewire is notifiable

 

[Hawkmoon]

I have lot the plot reading this thread, but i assume you are putting a socket outside. If it is fixed to the house wall, then it is not notifiable.

And presumably (from the kitchen rfc) if you run swa 20M across your garden and mount it in your shed, it is not notifiable

 

[HandySparks]

And presumably (from the kitchen rfc) if you run swa 20M across your garden and mount it in your shed, it is not notifiable

Correct. Only notifiable if it's a new circuit, even if outdoors.

I think it's crazy, myself. For the amount of work that has to be notified, it's hardly worth bothering to stay registered.