Electrician Jobs Oven switch isolator is missing, C2 on EICR

[Octopus]

Mike ....... I think this is more appropriate ....

 

[Taylortwocities]

This was covered earlier.
You cannot "C anything" unless it contravenes a regulation in BS7671.
There is no regulation that says that ovens must have a point of isolation. There's mention of such a thing in the OSG book (written by the Brothers Grimm) but its a guide, and there's no corresponding regulation.

So, again, if someone cares to find a relavent regulation , and prove me wrong, then go ahead.

 

[Igor Taranenko]

Thank you all for your views, interesting discussion as with few different opinions. I will install isolator after I've spoken to a client as means of convenience and to avoid any potential issue with BCO. I do also think it's isn't a requirement. The oven is electric which I think it's irrelevant.

Thanks

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Has anyone else asked a BCO to sign the design part of an EIC after they’ve started making demands for changes to an installation?

 

[Octopus]

Thank you all for your views, interesting discussion as with few different opinions. I will install isolator after I've spoken to a client as means of convenience and to avoid any potential issue with BCO. I do also think it's isn't a requirement. The oven is electric which I think it's irrelevant.

Thanks

Whats the BCO got to do with it?

 

[Igor Taranenko]

Whats the BCO got to do with it?

To be honest, they have nothing to do with it. But as some people suggest some BCO believe they have.

 

[Octopus]

To be honest, they have nothing to do with it. But as some people suggest some BCO believe they have.

BCO can only stick their oar in during building work they are involved in .. so if its just an EICR they are irrelevant.

 

[baldelectrician]

A always note it on an EICR if there is no appliance isolators
If I want to prove a point I download the installation manual for the appliance - these almost always state an isolator with a 3mm DP contact switch is required.
As manufacturers instructions over ride the regulations then it is a warranted observation.
IIRC it says something on the onsite guide about appliance isolators in kitchens , but I cant be bothered to go to the van as it is raining outside (book in van)

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I don’t believe Manufacturer’s instructions do override the Regs.
I think you’ll find it’s back to being taken account of?

 

[baldelectrician]

I have not got the new regs to hand (office needs a tidy)
The previous regs had
Section 134 ERECTION AND INITIAL VERIFICATION OF ELECTRICAL INSTALLATIONS
134.1 Erection
Regulation 134.1.1Good workmanship by competent persons or persons under their supervision and proper materials shall be used in the erection of the electrical installation, Electrical equipment shall be installed in accordance with the instructions provided by the manufacturer of the equipment.

PART 5 SELECTION AND ERECTION OF EQUIPMENT
CHAPTER 51 COMMON RULES
510.3 Every item of equipment shall shall be selected and erected so as to allow compliance with the regulations stated in this chapter and the relevant regulations in other parts of BS7671 and shall take account of manufacturers' instructions.