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whats all this about the state as well....having a Part P crackdown?....lol...
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Lots of uses of the words "You should" and "Your home" etc. Seems pretty clear cut to me
They were obviously prosecuted because of other more serious breaches, but the fact remains that among the charges they were prosecuted for were "failure to give a Building Notice to the Council prior to commencement of the work and he failed to give notice of commencement and completion of certain stages of the work", I'd suggest the case notes presented above were more relevant to the installer falsely claiming to be a CPS member and not fulfilling the duties that would be reasonably expected of one.
Let's be fair Glenn, it was me who first used the phrase on this thread mate. So if you need someone to blame or point and laugh at....hark at this one....lol....lol..
he chunters on about "civil disobedience".....lol...heard it all now....lol.....
Tony and others are calling for sparks to break the law in order to make a point.hark at this one....lol....lol..
he chunters on about "civil disobedience".....lol...heard it all now....lol.....
Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal to obey certain laws, demands, or commands of a government,
have you even read that quote, it clearly says that the person carrying out the work is responsible in the first sentence.The responsibility for all Building regs notifications is with the Home owner.
Enforcement action is taken against the home (building) owner.
From the Planning Portal;
if you are the
person (e.g. designer, builder, installer) carrying
out building work to which any requirement
of Building Regulations applies you have a
responsibility to ensure that the work complies
with any such requirement.
i think the whole chuffin thing`s crap...
as if theres a Part P police going round...lol..
listen Gavin:
no-one gives two shytes about Part P police...or a council snooper....or anything else like that for that matter....
and has anyone ever been prosicuted for not notifying the bank of LABC?
yes i did...and he didn`t want to know..You showed that APPALLING install that was on here a while back to the NICEIC, didn't you?
I think I remember you saying, they couldn't give a ....
It's a money making game between the schemes and the councils as far as I can see.
Fair enough, and I am the first to slag off 'guides' but surely without a statutory definition of 'who is carrying out the work' if it (the guide) states that is the home owner then what else do we have to go on.Not really, it's an introductory guide aimed at the home owner, not at the tradesman involved, therefore it's focussed on the home owner's responsibilities.
I'm honestly scared to ask for anything on here as I am worried people will just assume the worst in me and make me feel like **** for not knowing something.
The whole point is that a properly qualified and competent person should not have to join a club to be told he or she is competent.
OK lets just clear this ****e up so people understand...... to be " QUALIFIED " you do 3 YEARS {not days} at college and gain your core qualifications preferably whilst working alongside a sparks gaining practical experience !!!!!!!!!!!
NEXT........ do your NVQ3 followed by your AM2 which demonstrates you have carried out a variety of work outlined by city and guilds!!!!!!!!
THEN you apply for your jib card and get graded as an ELECTRICIAN !!!
Now regardless at to whether some of you think the NVQ is a farce and pointless and jib cards are crap this is how it is to be qualified and that is that im afraid like it or not !!!!!
Obviously there are many more qualifications to gain after your NVQ3 is complete but these 4-5 years doing a time served apprenticeship gaining valuable knowledge and experience is the ONLY way to be recognised as a REAL sparky.
Just having a 17th cert = NOT QUALIFIED
PART P BOLOX = NOT QUALIFIED
Just because you did a 5 week course and joined a scheme = NOT QUALIFIED
SIMPLES !!!!!!
you're joining the club to enable you to self certify and notify the work to building control at in the region of 10% of the cost of making an individual building control application for your work.
I'm honestly scared to ask for anything on here as I am worried people will just assume the worst in me and make me feel like **** for not knowing something.
I have been trying to upload page iv of the document which sets out the notification rules for gavin, but this bleeding site will not let me past and copy anything for some reason, it is quite clear who is responsible and who will face prosecution if the rules are not adhered to, it is the householder who is responsible, I just wish the paste would work, I cannot even send a PM at the moment, the site is broken for me.
Evening Mike, maybe you punctured it with one of your Horns, you need to be careful wher you point them buggers!!
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