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  1. Cadgey123
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    Cadgey123 Electrician's Arms

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    I remember when trades were nice to each other on site and looked out for their fellow comrades.
    Yes there is a single box that needs to be used beneath that finishing plaster.

    They would plaster round a window to a good standard, so why not a socket box neatly :mad:

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  2. kingeri
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    It's just pure laziness. Easier to get a good finish by just going over the top, not his problem is it?
     
  3. Murdoch
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    At least you can see it.

    Had that done to me recently - the plasterer had some making good to do as I didn't find it as easily.
     
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  4. Pete999
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    Not hard to find is it?
     
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  5. Cadgey123
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    Yeah I will do my best to get it out safely, but won’t be fussed about any damage.
     
  6. Cadgey123
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    So you
     
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    just cut it with multitool.
     
  8. Pete999
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    Or a hammer
     
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  9. Cadgey123
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  10. Cadgey123
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    Beat me to it :p
     
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    now now pete. plasterers are human ;) semi-human too.
     
  12. Dave Jenkins
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    Nowadays I always say to customers that I'll damage plasterwork where the job entails chasing out adding I'm an electrician not a plasterer. I do my best to make good of course but.....
     
  13. Andy78
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    I estimate it will take you roughly 28 hammer blows over an area of 4 square metres to find it successfully ;)
     
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    was the room full of mist when you took the picture with a brownie camera!
     
  15. Sparky Pat
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    Sparky Pat Regular EF Member

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    My Father once had issues with plasterers who thought it was a great joke to plaster over boxes so that they could not be seen. Knowing that a box had been deliberately plastered over he drew a line across the wall at the center height of the box, then with his lump hammer and bolster chipped his way out from the corner till he found the box. Plasterers then had to repair the damage, they did not do it again.
     
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  16. paul291277
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    Could hang that pic in a gallery and people would argue for hours about the meaning behind it
     
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  17. paul291277
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    Have to find a single back box tomorrow that has been covered in 1 layer OSB board, 1 layer coreboard,1 layer soundblock board and then tiled. Will draw round a backbox for the tiler to cut his tile like I have done a few times on this job then use a multi-tool to cut through the rest. Have normally been accurate to within about 20mm everytime so far so have pushed a skeleton (extender) box in and screwed diagonally into the OSB board. Not blaming the tiler who has been very good at coming back and cutting the tiles for me, but the dryliners who work on price and try to tell me I put the box there after they had boarded over it. @rseh0les - rant over!
     
  18. static zap
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    Job satisfaction day !
     
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  19. static zap
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    I see , UK attempting to distance it's self -from a rather Square/rule bound EU -Block-that been invaiding our space !

    ( only took One-Beer )
     
  20. Dave OCD
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    I had a whole room of new galv wall boxes filled with plaster recently - the irony is that the 'plasterer' was also a registered Niceic D.I. You'd think he'd know better but it was maybe sour grapes for not getting the electrical bit of the work.
     
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  21. ye oldie sparks
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    Best way to get back at them is to throw a handful of sharp sand in the mix and give it a stir, and walk away whistling
     
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  22. stummish
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    This is why I always cover my boxes with brown packaging tape at the end of 1st fix. Plaster doesn't stick to it that we'll, and they can't full the box up. Makes it easier for me to get a nice clean box, and the plasterers love it cause they can skim straight over the top of it.

    A lot of other trades can be kn0bs, but I belive we should help each other out where we can. So a bit of tape on a box helps us both have an easy day!
     
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  23. KEV 1 N
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    Or you could carefully slit the bottom of their plaster bags with a sharp knife, so when they pick it up, it all comes out in a big plooomf of dust!!
     
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    pi$$ing in their fresh mix is always good for a laff.
     
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  25. LankyWill
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    I used to do this all the time when I worked on high volume sites. I was always on price and wouldn't see a penny if I had to locate plastered boxes. In the end we just used to take a hammer to walls and laugh it off. Probably cut close to a pallet full of bags. Plasterers/Liners are the appitimy of stupid and lazy.
     
  26. Bear2016
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    Bear2016 Regular EF Member

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    Had exactly the same this week. 8 sockets in a kitchen and every single one plastered over and took me ages to dig it all out. So next time I chase and run cables I'm going to leave them live so every time the plasterer goes near it he gets a shock. Might keep him away from the socket :)
     
  27. Bear2016
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    If I chase I always fill with bonding plaster to help them out when it comes to plastering takes me 5 mins and speeds their job up but I will defo be using the brown tape method from now on ;-)
     
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  29. 123
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    I've never used them but I don't see the point in them from this page?
    What's to stop plasterer filling over the top of it as well (although I guess you could find it easier as it will be hollow)
     
  30. JK-Electrical
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    JK-Electrical Politically Incorrect Electrician's Arms

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    I think they're demonstrating a worst-case scenario here and showing you what to do should the plasterer ignore your explicit instructions that the box not be skimmed, in which case the guidance suggested in post numbers 9, 13, 15 and 21 is then acted upon.
     

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