Posting a message to the forum will remove the above advertisement

Discuss Please Explain The Lack Of Brexit in the Politics & The Economy area at ElectrciansForums.co.uk.

Please make sure you checkout our forum sponsors, many do discounts for members and, they keep the forum free to use.
  1. Marvo
    Offline

    Marvo Gender Confused Staff Member

    Location:
    South Africa
    Is the UK leaving the EU or not?

    I see court cases, I see votes in parliament. There's talk of a hard Brexit, a soft Brexit, Scotland says they're not allowing it...... Wasn't there a national referendum with a clear majority or did I miss something?

    Seems like a lot of smoke and mirrors to me with a lot of heel dragging thrown in for good measure.

    What a bunch of girls blouses....why all the performing?

    Why hasn't the EU just gone full steam ahead to a clean separation.
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2017
  2. Wilko
    Online

    Wilko Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    Berkshire
    Business Name:
    Wilko Electrics
    Marvo you have missed something : it wouldn't generate lots of political opportunities and publicity, and pollies do like a fuss.
     
  3. telectrix
    Offline

    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    cheshire/staffordshire
    Business Name:
    Telectrix
    the problem is, marvo, that whilst the majority op the electorate have voted to leave, some foreign mare has kicked up a fuss so that now all them useless politicians have to agree to abide by the vote of the people, which is what they promised to do before, but then you know that all politicians are liars and will milk it until they receive a pension that's 20 times what most of us earn in a lifetime.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Marvo
    Offline

    Marvo Gender Confused Staff Member

    Location:
    South Africa
    So is there actually going to be a Brexit?
     
  5. snowhead
    Offline

    snowhead Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Mildlands
    YES.
    The Article 50 notice to quit the EU will be handed over soon
     
  6. telectrix
    Offline

    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    cheshire/staffordshire
    Business Name:
    Telectrix
    amongst all the benefits that will come to the UK is that GMES will be able to buy his bananas from anywhere in the world, and they can even have a bend radius that does not comply with EU directives. he might even then be able to hold on to them.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. Murdoch
    Offline

    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    Woking
    More to the point the protectionist CAP Wil be history...... The French farmers will have to adapt to survive....

    The small issues of the German, French and Dutch elections are muddying the waters.....
     
  8. Des 56
    Offline

    Des 56 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Gliese 581C


    Worry he not about the French farmers,they will still be in the EU and have ready markets that will ensure their survival and prosperity
    Best we somehow concentrate on the survival of our own farming industry

    Example,in Wales (mainly because of the landscape) the farming industry is very reliant on sheep farming
    When we leave the EU they will have to compete against the freed trade EU countries and also New Zealand (who have a free trade agreement with the EU)
    The tariffs that will be applied to imported Welsh lamb may very well decimate our own farming industry because they will be unable to compete on a level playing field

    Multiply this example by the same in many other industries and the silly dream of freedom from the comfort of the EU will soon become a very sober reality to the silly choice that was made to leave
     
  9. Pete999
    Online

    Pete999 Trusted Advisor

    Top Poster Of Month

    Location:
    Northampton
    Would the Mare be that Krankey Bint?
     
  10. Rockspark
    Offline

    Rockspark EF Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    What planet are you on???
    Oh yes......
     
  11. telectrix
    Offline

    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    cheshire/staffordshire
    Business Name:
    Telectrix
    Des, you had to compete with the upside downers before th traitors heath and wilson sold us out to the krauts. you can do it again, and also you'll be able to fish british waters without the spanish invaders to compete with.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. Des 56
    Offline

    Des 56 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Gliese 581C
    That was a fine reply to the complex Brexit debate
    Well done for that and am looking forward to some more of your in depth reasoning :confused:

    The problem looking forward Tel is like I stated
    The upsidedowners have a free trade agreement with the EU that will give them great advantage should Teresa August not negotiate a free trade agreement when Brexit is complete
    If there is anything less than free trade Rugby will not be the only thing with which they slaughter the Welsh :)
     
  13. Rockspark
    Offline

    Rockspark EF Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    It has obviously escaped you but there is no debate. The words you are looking for are MAJORITY, DECISION, and DEMOCRACY. You need to get used to the idea, just like that Scottish gargoyle, Tony war monger Blaire and the "not even a U.K. Citizen" Gena Miller, that we are leaving. Gone, departed, finished, divorced. Au revoire, auf wiedersien, goodbye, and good riddance. One day, all you remoaners will look back and say "thank god those Brexiteers had the sense to get us out of that debacle".
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. Des 56
    Offline

    Des 56 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Gliese 581C
    Read the thread and you will find comment on the French farmers not having to be subsidised
    My replys were to do with agreements for when the UK leaves,they were met with astronomy enquiries on your part

    The whole thread was nothing to do with the actual vote that was for exit
    Printing capital letter words to portray your irritation,it is about a completely different subject
    Again it shows fine in depth reasoning yet again
     
  15. Rockspark
    Offline

    Rockspark EF Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    The reasoning bit has ended, we have done that one. You guys just need to stop carping on and get on with it, for we shall all be better off in the long run.
     
  16. darkwood
    Online

    darkwood It's all about Gmes Staff Member Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    West Yorkshire
    @Marvo@Marvo

    Nichola Sturgeon is an extreme nationalist, she has had an independence dream since she was 15yrs old and is somewhat blinkered (tunnel vision) call it what you want to try live her dream... the problem is as Scotland has to leave the EU to rejoin regardless of our vote or position, if they ever become a self governing country they will have to re-apply to ensure they meet requirements... the unfortunate thing is they have the biggest deficit of any EU member including Greece and would not qualify to join until they met the criteria, she is playing an argument that circumstances have changed and she can get a mandate to go for a second referendum, again she is playing the public with fake news, the original Scottish referendum had it in their own white paper that the case to leave and become independent was because the UK may leave the EU, still she lost, so she is playing the single market card which side steps her ignorance here but during the Brexit debate all the main brexit campaigners did state that leaving the EU would mean leaving the single market, this is her downfall but the Scottish people are not been told the reality here, she has no position to call a new referendum but she is trying to bluff her way into it by getting public support... once they are informed that their biggest deficit in the EU is only not effecting them because of the UK's tax payers propping them up and the crucial fact that the majority of there trade by a very large margin is with the UK then I suspect she will see her dream die but given the strange climate recently, I won't say that's a given, she is playing a massive gamble that has negative odds to try win her dream, I say let them learn there lesson but it would effect us too so I'm for her getting a second kick up the arse.

    Obviously this original OP was in feb and now we know that article 50 gets triggered next Wed' so that answers the question now albeit a month and a half later, but we needed to wait to find out.
     
  17. Murdoch
    Offline

    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    Woking
    According to LBC radio this morning, the Scottish Parliament haven't passed ANY legislation in the last 12 months........ which makes me wonder what they and all the pen pushing cronies are actually being paid to do?
     
  18. Midwest
    Online

    Midwest Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    Oxfordshire
    There's a dilemma for some in Scotland. Some voted for independence, and those same voters, voted for Brexit; Out Outers.

    So if there's a second independence vote, and they vote to leave the UK, the SNP intend to re-join or stay in the EU. So the question for those particular voters (thanks the Clash); Should I stay or should I go now? :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    brexit should be sorted out with a phonecall to eu telling them were no longer paying to be part of their urine drinking club.

    daily terror attacks thank to merkel and her booty buddies.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. SWD
    Offline

    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    London
    Don't be silly, just send them a text "I don't love you anymore, you're dumped" thats it.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  21. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    eu officials need to hear from malcolm tucker, if needs be ill be on standby with a repitoire of insults to shout down the phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGzM08Z-XNw
     
  22. Andy78
    Offline

    Andy78 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Kingston upon Hull
    The problem is we are saying
    "I don't love you anymore, you're dumped. But we can still be f*ckbuddies right ? And we're still gonna hang out with all the same friends as always ? But I don't want anything more to do with you, just to be clear"

    Which is probably why we are getting the respect we deserve in the negotiations, which is none.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  23. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    negotiations? i think we settled that the first two times germany tried to rule europe ;)
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  24. Andy78
    Offline

    Andy78 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Kingston upon Hull
    Unfortunately patriotic attempts at humour won't disguise the reality of the situation as Boris is seemingly also yet to discover.
     
  25. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    true but europe relies on our trade to survive, we could simply shop elsewhere, everything i like is made here so im good, plenty of beef/chicken/potatoes in britain, someone should leave the churchill speeches on merkels voicemail
     
  26. Des 56
    Offline

    Des 56 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Gliese 581C
    true but europe relies on our trade to survive, we could simply shop elsewhere
    :D



    After brexit
    EU :disrelieved::)
    UK :coldsweat: :eek: :praying::( :cry::cry::cry::cry:
     
  27. telectrix
    Offline

    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    cheshire/staffordshire
    Business Name:
    Telectrix
    nah.. end of oppression.

    showing-ass.gif

    rofl.gif
     
  28. Murdoch
    Offline

    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    Woking
    If the EEC had stayed as the EEC then this mess wouldn't have happened.

    All the blame goes too Tony Blair who promised the UK electorate in 2005 a vote on the Lisbon treaty ..... Then didn't deliver .. ... As he knew the UK would have rejected it... And the EU wouldn't have had the balls to ask the UK to vote again, so the EEC would have lived on .....
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  29. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    the EU is a spit in the face of all the men and women who gave their lives during the wars, i doubt they would have given their lives so willingly knowing that 70 years later germany would be inviting hordes of 3rd worlders with their open borders, all a terrorist has to do is make it to germany then they have free travel throughout europe, does that make sense to anyone?

    Merkel is responsible for the mess of immigration europe is facing right now, look at the state of calais, daily terror attacks etc, we need out of the EU
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  30. Midwest
    Online

    Midwest Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    Oxfordshire
    Not withstanding immigration issues, America has the same problem, with terror attacks. There're not part of the EU.
     
  31. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    our problems with terrorism have gotten alot worse since merkels open door policy for all of africa and the middle east, calais is merkels fault, do you want the people currently destroying france to be given asylum in the uk? i certainly dont.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  32. Pete999
    Online

    Pete999 Trusted Advisor

    Top Poster Of Month

    Location:
    Northampton
    Land of the free home of the Brave, the great big melting pot of life
     
  33. spinlondon
    Offline

    spinlondon Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Harlow Essex
    Lol, let’s blame Merkel for everything.
    Don’t blame Theresa May for allowing immigration to the UK to increase or for her reducing the number of Police and security personnel.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  34. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    mother merkel as she is called by africans and middle easterners, has invitd MILLIONS of uneducated fodder to come to europe and sponge off our hard work, once they get into germany it becomes easier for them to get into britain, because of free travel.
     
  35. telectrix
    Offline

    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    cheshire/staffordshire
    Business Name:
    Telectrix
    and the froggies can't stop them either. look how they performed in 1914 and 1940.
     
  36. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    time to seal the channel tunnel, or send our boys over to save france, again, because of the germans, again.

    history repeats as they say
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  37. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    gaddafis most loyal soldiers and police are the only ones trying to sto the invasion of the 3rd world into europe, whilst europes navy does nothing to deter.
     
  38. spinlondon
    Offline

    spinlondon Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Harlow Essex
    Not aware that Merkel has invited anyone to come to Europe to sponge?
    However I am aware that the British government, local government and businesses have invited many foreigners to come here to work.
     
  39. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
  40. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    skilled labour we do need, unskilled, barely educated not willing to integrate? we dont need.
     
  41. spinlondon
    Offline

    spinlondon Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Harlow Essex
    So Merkel has adopted British immigration policies and now it’s all her fault?
     
  42. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    its not like its a big secret even she has admitted she royally ruined europe
     
  43. spinlondon
    Offline

    spinlondon Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Harlow Essex
    Why blame Merkel for copying us but not blame our government?
     
  44. elsparko
    Offline

    elsparko Regular EF Member

    Location:
    scotland
    our government didnt invite millions.
     
  45. spinlondon
    Offline

    spinlondon Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Harlow Essex
    • Informative Informative x 1
Loading...
Similar Threads - Please Explain Lack Forum Date
Coding advice on EICR please Periodic Inspection Reporting & Certification Sunday at 8:49 PM
Advice on TABLE 41.3 please? Electrical Wiring, Theories and Regulations Saturday at 11:03 PM

Share This Page

  • Electricians Directory Post a Domestic Job Post a Commercial Job