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  1. Steve T
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    Steve T Regular EF Member

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    Hi,

    I am trying to add a spur to a socket on a ring final circuit. , but I can't get all three cables to make a good tight connection in the socket terminals when I tighten them up.
    Can I put the two ring final cables and the spur cable into a wago connector (one with the levers), and then add a short length of cable from the wago to the socket itself?
    Thanks!
     
  2. Pete999
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    Is the existing socket flush mounted or surface mounted?
     
  3. Steve T
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    Steve T Regular EF Member

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    Flush mounted, it's an ordinary decorative double socket.
     
  4. Pete999
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    Thanks that's my suggestion out of the question then,I can't see your profile so I will ask "are you an Electrician?" It looks from your question that you are not, so best get a sparky in to add a socket for you.
     
  5. mickfred
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    Try doubling up the conductor s going to be spare, giving a bit more to grip to . If it's that you forcing the socket on and their not enough space you may have to sink a deeper back box .
     
  6. Steve T
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    Steve T Regular EF Member

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    No I'm not an electrician, but I am confident in doing small electrical jobs that don't require notification in my own property.
    I have added spurs in my previous house successfully, but have not yet come across a socket that will not tighten up 3 cables tightly.
     
  7. Zdb
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    Zdb Regular EF Member

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    Try changing the socket for a better one that will hopefully allow the 3 lots of cables.
     
  8. Steve T
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    That was actually my initial thought, but it is a decorative socket, and there are other sockets of the same type in the room, all visible, so the misses didn't like that idea when I suggested it!
     
  9. Steve T
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    There's plenty of space in the back box. I'll try doubling the conductors tomorrow, and see if that works. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
  10. mickfred
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    It's not likely but check if you cross threaded the screw
     
  11. Steve T
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    Steve T Regular EF Member

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    I had the same problem with all three terminals, so unlikely, but I'll check.
     
  12. Richard Burns
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    If you can arrange the cores in a triangle formation so that the terminal screw presses first on the top core and spreads the two lower ones this should hold effectively.
     
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  13. Andy-1960
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    Andy-1960 Electrician's Arms

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    Are all the cables the same size (csa) and type?
     
  14. KennyKen
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    KennyKen Electrician's Arms

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    Is this a Crabtree Socket? For some reason they love to make their terminals nice n snug. Never had a problem with fitting three cores into a MK.
     
  15. Steve T
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    Steve T Regular EF Member

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    The terminal is too wide. All the conductors lie flat at the bottom, so the ones at the side are not clamped down tightly.
     
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