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  1. Steve T
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    Hi,

    I am trying to add a spur to a socket on a ring final circuit. , but I can't get all three cables to make a good tight connection in the socket terminals when I tighten them up.
    Can I put the two ring final cables and the spur cable into a wago connector (one with the levers), and then add a short length of cable from the wago to the socket itself?
    Thanks!
     
  2. Pete999
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    Is the existing socket flush mounted or surface mounted?
     
  3. Steve T
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    Flush mounted, it's an ordinary decorative double socket.
     
  4. Pete999
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    Thanks that's my suggestion out of the question then,I can't see your profile so I will ask "are you an Electrician?" It looks from your question that you are not, so best get a sparky in to add a socket for you.
     
  5. mickfred
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    Try doubling up the conductor s going to be spare, giving a bit more to grip to . If it's that you forcing the socket on and their not enough space you may have to sink a deeper back box .
     
  6. Steve T
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    No I'm not an electrician, but I am confident in doing small electrical jobs that don't require notification in my own property.
    I have added spurs in my previous house successfully, but have not yet come across a socket that will not tighten up 3 cables tightly.
     
  7. Zdb
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    Try changing the socket for a better one that will hopefully allow the 3 lots of cables.
     
  8. Steve T
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    That was actually my initial thought, but it is a decorative socket, and there are other sockets of the same type in the room, all visible, so the misses didn't like that idea when I suggested it!
     
  9. Steve T
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    There's plenty of space in the back box. I'll try doubling the conductors tomorrow, and see if that works. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
  10. mickfred
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    It's not likely but check if you cross threaded the screw
     
  11. Steve T
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    I had the same problem with all three terminals, so unlikely, but I'll check.
     
  12. Richard Burns
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    If you can arrange the cores in a triangle formation so that the terminal screw presses first on the top core and spreads the two lower ones this should hold effectively.
     
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  13. Andy-1960
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    Are all the cables the same size (csa) and type?
     
  14. KennyKen
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    Is this a Crabtree Socket? For some reason they love to make their terminals nice n snug. Never had a problem with fitting three cores into a MK.
     
  15. Steve T
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    The terminal is too wide. All the conductors lie flat at the bottom, so the ones at the side are not clamped down tightly.
     
  16. Steve T
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    Yes. All cables are t&e, 2.5mm2, and same brand.
     
  17. Steve T
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    It's a Tenby socket. They are no longer manufactured, although you can find them on eBay.
     
  18. KennyKen
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    Oh well shows how long I've been out of the country for.
     
  19. telectrix
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    that reinforces previous post to double over the end of the spur cable,
     
  20. Leader
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    I'd double them all over if there's that much room.
     
  21. Steve T
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    Yes, I'll try that. Thanks
     
  22. Steve T
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    Thanks for the suggestion!
     
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  23. ccvaltd
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    How close is the fused spur to the socket? What I would of done is put the fused spur into the ring. So put one leg of the ring into the fused spur then the other leg into the socket and then link from socket to fused spur that way only 2 cables in each lug of the socket and that way it's also done correctly
     
  24. Steve T
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    Thanks for all your help:). I ended up doubling over the spur conductors, and that did the trick.
     
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