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  1. 1Justin
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    1Justin Electrician's Arms

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    Who's used these, and got any practical experience of range performance when there's a wall/window in the way? (FYI the transmitters don't use a battery, but get their energy by giving a big thwack to a lump of piezo).

    Having many years in radio electronics, I'm well enough aware that manufacturers claims will be based on best case line-of sight (open air, they claim 160M), or indoors (they claim 30M).
    This is 400MHz so it's well attenuated by building materials. My gut feeling tells me that with a cavity wall plus a window in the way, a range of ~ 6 metres in this case could be very borderline.
    Naturally no-one at TLC has any idea and the manufacturers don't provide any further info.

    So who's used one?

    I might have to go for a "real" radio switch, but that adds cost which may not wash.

    - I'm trying to cheat doing it the proper way since it's a set of outdoor lighting running off a separate detached garage supply. We are looking for a switch in the nearest adjacent part of the main house.
     
  2. Gavin John Hyde
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    I have used them for 2 way lighting for an elderly couple who didnt want the wall chased out for the 2 way wiring.
    worked fine on both switches with one switch down in hallway and below the bathroom, the receiver was upstairs in ceiling void and worked fine. as long as the stairwell/case isnt too enclosed and reasonably spacious they should work okay.
    Only issues i have heard of happening is when the switch is too close to something such as a radio or old tv. for some reason the radiowaves can block the signals from getting through well.
    They are a much more affordable alternative to the MK echo range and work just as good if not better
    the metal brackets for mounting on front of a back box are worth getting though. make the switches look neater. i wouldn't bother with the metallic effect switches if you can still find them,but stick with white. the metallic finish comes off easily.

    You should find they work fine for a 6 metre range even with walls etc..
     
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  3. leematthews
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    Yeah ive used them before.
    Two 1 way circuits and 1 two way circuit in the same house before. They were about 10m from switch to light with no obstacles in the way. Worked first time with no issues. For the price they are good imo and the dimmer function was great. Customer was happy and easy to fit.
     
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  4. pirate
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    pirate Regular EF Member

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    Used lots of these, very easy to fit. I have one in my garage which activates a lamp in my hall to remind me the garage door is open. The switch is on a blockwork wall, and the lamp is 5 metres away on the other side, with the receiver situated in a void under a shelf, and no problems so far. Very occasionally a "wave" gets blocked, causing the switch to work in reverse. Easy to fix, just switch off the power and re-pair.
    Fitted two for outside lights where it was impossible to raggle the walls...they work fine at about 10m range. Another one operates garden lights from 30m, with the switch again inside on a solid wall.
     
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  5. 1Justin
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    1Justin Electrician's Arms

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    Thanks for all those. It sounds like I might get away with it. Could always put the receiver outside the garage but not nice.
     
  6. pirate
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    Honestly, just do it...you will not have a problem, I'm sure.
    Receiver can always be re-sited, but I doubt if you will need to do that.
    Good luck!
     
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    Oh, and do come back and tell us how it went!
     
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    Best adjective of the week :)
     
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  9. pirate
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    pirate Regular EF Member

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    Raggle?
    might be a verb!
    Chasing in England...
    Raggling in Scotland:)

    Och aye...there's nothin' I like better than a good raggle!
    LOL!
     
  10. pirate
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    pirate Regular EF Member

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    Tell you what, 1Justin...if it doesn't work, I'll buy the kit from you and use it myself...
    and no, I'm not an employee of quinetic!
    BTW, try the plug in adaptors too.
     
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    WillWX Regular EF Member

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    Thanks for posting this thread, this has solved a problem for me! Customer decided days after plaster they’d now like a 2 way switch in the bedroom..

    Hopefully this will solve the problem :)
     
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  12. 1Justin
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    1Justin Electrician's Arms

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    I picked one up yesterday since the demo seemed to work well out into the TLC car-park. If I get time I'll wire it up for a test and do some "proper" checks round my own brick house and report back.
     
  13. 1Justin
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    1Justin Electrician's Arms

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    OK, for anyone interested. - These I think might become common for my garden projects in future.
    The unit itself seems nice and solid. It doesn't need a separate enclosure and it has substantial cable grips. Only a single mounting screw, but one's own cable clamps would prevent rotation if fitted direct to a wall. Contacts are screw/squeeze -style (not raw screw terminals), so perfect for flex. So far I'm quite impressed.
    I tested it first through the triple glazed window of my kitchen, then I got bored after I was 100 metres from the house in a line of sight to the lamp, still working fine.
    Second test was from an upstairs room. Line of sight had two brick cavity walls plus two plasterboard partition walls all kind of on the diagonal. It worked solidly to 60 metres range down the road and then stopped.
    Third test involved a brick cavity wall, this one lined with aluminium foil faced plasterboard, then a 2 metre gap and the neighbour's (brick) house, the corner of which which jutted about 2 metres directly into the line of sight. I made 30 metres.
     
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    pirate Regular EF Member

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    I won't say "I told you so"....
     
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