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  1. danb86
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    danb86 EF Member

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    Hi,

    I've just bought a new build flat in a 8 storey building. The communal lights from floors 1-7 are permanently on as well as two staircases. The ground floor is the only floor with PIR's installed.

    It's such a poor design and I can't see how this can be allowed in this day and age. In no way is it efficient. The downlights used have an average life of 25,000 hours so will need replacing in 3 years. The flat owners pay the communal electricity bill so I doubt the developer/landlord cares about it too much.

    I've contacted my local council who told me the building was signed off by a private firm of building control inspectors. Before I contact them or the developer I want to get some more knowledge about any regs.

    So my question is, have the developers not met any regulations or requirements regarding the communal lighting for energy efficiency or something similar?

    Every new build I've worked in we've always installed PIR's in communal areas. It's such a bad design.

    Appreciate any help. Thanks.
     
  2. essex
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    essex Forum Mentor

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    Perfectly fine.
     
  3. DPG
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    Seems a big waste of energy to me.
     
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  4. spinlondon
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    For the OP?
     
  5. DPG
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    Having lights on when it's not dark.
     
  6. spinlondon
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    Thought you meant a waste of energy for the OP trying to fix it.
     
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  7. DPG
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    Not at all, no. I can't see the sense of wasting electricity and also reducing the life expectancy of the luminaires.
     
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  8. danb86
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    Out of interest why do you suggest it might be a waste of time? I'm half expecting myself for it to be a waste of time. The developer's have had the building signed off, they've sold the flats, we're paying the communal electricity bill, £££££££ in their pocket. Who cares about their lights? Onto the next job with poorly designed communal lighting... :smirk:

    Figured I might as well at least try!
     
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  9. spinlondon
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    Because I doubt very much you’ll get anywhere.
    Sounds like it’s been wired incorrectly, or the contractor just couldn’t be asked to fit PIRs on the other floors.
     
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  10. DPG
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    I disagree. If it is wrong then it should be mentioned.
     
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  11. Vortigern
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    Vortigern Regular EF Member

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    Presumably you have the flat on a dread lease? Is there a management company? If so why not take it up with them. Do you have natural daylight on each floor i.e. a window if not maybe that is why they are on? As to regs well there is the idea a switch is required for isolation of the item and there is a requirement of EE in the regs none of which are enforceable legally as they are not statute. There may be a fault and it needs checking perhaps. Again raise with the MC.
     
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  12. Stspark
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    Poor design and/or install. Should be designed to provide longevity for the building and energy efficiency. Approved Document L maybe of use?. As you've stated it's a new build it's likely under a new build warranty and maybe worth contacting NHBC or the likes of. Also be worth discussing with the director of the RTM (if in place) who will represent the leaseholders, management company and the building landlord.
     
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  13. SWD
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    I think the lights are the least of your worries if the building has 8 floors then the lift is the major worry.
     
  14. spinlondon
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    spinlondon Forum Mentor

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    Mention it as much as you want, but who’s going to do anything about it?
    Only way to get the builders to do anything, will be to take them to court.
    Council won’t do anything.
    The private company that signed it off can’t do anything, they’ve already signed it off.
    The electricians who installed it won’t do anything as they’ve already been paid and their customer’s already accepted the work.
     
  15. DPG
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    You're very vocal on this one Spin - wasn't you who wired them up was it? :):)
     
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