Rogue Traders

[Poweri]

Morning all,

Just wondered if any customers or professionals on this site have any shocking stories or photographs they can share with me?

We have done a piece on our blog "Solar PV Rogue Traders" and I'd like to continue it.

Would be grateful for anything you could share.

 

[MCS Renewables]

We have started a website at Renewable Rescue - Repairing Solar PV & Thermal Installations trying to sort out some of the bodges in Dorset.

Some pictures here : Wall of Shame - Renewable Rescue

 

[driverman]

Great pictures.......Just don't know how people get away with it! Is not industry governed by somebody?

 

[Poweri]

I agree some great pictures there, we only have a few.

Solar PV Rogue Traders| Poweri Services Ltd

 

[Guitarist]

Honestly guys, if you saw what we see on a daily basis in normal domestic work, you'd think some of those installs you have pictures for are fantastic.

 

[Poweri]

Honestly guys, if you saw what we see on a daily basis in normal domestic work, you'd think some of those installs you have pictures for are fantastic.

Would you be so kind as to take some photo's for me? I'd be happy to give credit to you.

 

[Guitarist]

Sorry, but I only have photos of poor DIY work.

 

[Poweri]

I don't want any credit, but here's a tasty little pic or 2 just to give you some idea what we're up against every day. Nothing to do with PV, just poor electrics.
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Always nice to see cables wrapped around gas pipes. Who needs cpc's anyway???

Speechless!

 

[Guitarist]

Speechless!

I have to make it clear that those pictures are the result of DIY work, and not professional electricians.
After a while spent in lofts, that sort of work doesn't even seem out of the ordinary for any domestic spark to see.

 

[MCS Renewables]

The industry is governed by REAL.
The contractors are registered with MCS bodies (NAPIT, NICEIC, ETC )

REAL can be avoided by the rogues who just refuse to have membership and sell how and what they like and give the installs to other MCS contractors who maintain a REAL membership.

The MCS bodies are getting an annual revenue from a declining membership and seem never to exclude anyone, as its all income !

REAL point the finger at the MCS bodies and vice versa.

Great idea to have a customer association but its is toothless and circumventable by those who with a mind to do so.

 

[telectrix]

wewnt to a job to replace 20 50w GU10s with LEDs. this is what was found in the attic. every JB was the same. cpc's cut off.

 

[Guitarist]

wewnt to a job to replace 20 50w GU10s with LEDs. this is what was found in the attic. every JB was the same. cpc's cut off.

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I think you'll back me up here tel, when I say that that sort of thing doesn't even surprise us anymore, we see it so much.

 

[telectrix]

yep, builders, plumbers, Electrical Trainee's all think they know it all. it works. client is happy... till there's a fire or fatality, then maybe, just maybe, electrical work will only be done by qualified sparks. not in my lifetime, i think.

 

[driverman]

Re those pictures with solar panels planted (not installed) on rooftops and side walls! Are the building regs people not bothered what the properties look like after? After all some of the surrounding properties will not sell at market value. They stand to lose thousands of pounds at no fault of their own.

 

[Guitarist]

Re those pictures with solar panels planted (not installed) on rooftops and side walls! Are the building regs people not bothered what the properties look like after? After all some of the surrounding properties will not sell at market value. They stand to lose thousands of pounds at no fault of their own.

Totally agree. I've known people be refused planning permission due to roofing tiles being the wrong shade, yet those panels are allowed???

 

[Earthstore]

Totally agree. I've known people be refused planning permission due to roofing tiles being the wrong shade, yet those panels are allowed???

Strange as it may seem, but yes you are allowed to have PV panels on your foor under the permitted development rights, as long as they are under 200mm from the plain of the roof, even in a conservation area.

You do need planning permission on listed buildings though, and for ground mounted systems too.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Sorry, but I only have photos of poor DIY work.

Bloody Hell ............. when were you in Geordieland??mg_smile:

I remember doing that job 5 years ago !!! :cowboy:

 

[Guitarist]

Bloody Hell ............. when were you in Geordieland??mg_smile:

I remember doing that job 5 years ago !!! :cowboy:

You've obviously improved since 10 years ago...

 

[Geordie Spark]

You've obviously improved since 10 years ago...

Oh aye .... improving all the time.

I bought mesel' a MFT last week, and a Readers' Digest book about Domestic Wiring last month.

 

[markc123]

We have started a website at Renewable Rescue - Repairing Solar PV & Thermal Installations trying to sort out some of the bodges in Dorset.

Some pictures here : Wall of Shame - Renewable Rescue

This is maybe a nasty thing to say - but im glad its just not us domestic/comercial sparks that see the DIY monstrositys and you solar lads get it aswell