Some advice adding sockets

[Spoon]

Interpretation then, stop snipping.

Don't know what 'snipping' is. It this what you mean?

 

[Spoon]

Interpretation then, stop snipping.

I get what you mean now...
I'm not sniping mate. If what I'm doing is classed as 'sniping' then maybe it should be directed at the person who started the sniping.

 

[Rpa07]

It seems to me that we are using too many words for something that doesn’t really matter.
Using the word ‘likely’ and ‘testing the circuit’ shouldn’t have started anything in the first place. The poor OP probably thinks we are all primadonas whereas most are just ‘Prime donors’!

 

[MDJ]

You did that to get your 2000 posts lol

 

[Rpa07]

@Spoon we got caught in the Bermuda Triangle!

 

[Spoon]

@Spoon we got caught in the Bermuda Triangle!

I bet quite a few members would love that to happen to me..

 

[Pete999]

I get what you mean now...
I'm not sniping mate. If what I'm doing is classed as 'sniping' then maybe it should be directed at the person who started the sniping.

Meant to be a joke Spoon sorry if I was misleading you, don't know how to post to myself, cus I was the one being accused of sniping, I think, now I'm confused, got to go and fix a curtain rail for an old Lady now, laters.

 

[MDJ]

Who cares if Spoon thinks your sniping, just chuck him in the dishwasher.

 

[Spoon]

Meant to be a joke Spoon sorry if I was misleading you, don't know how to post to myself, cus I was the one being accused of sniping, I think, now I'm confused, got to go and fix a curtain rail for an old Lady now, laters.

No worries mate.. I'm happy, I'm off work for a week.. (Looking after my lad who bust his leg)

 

[Spoon]

Who cares if Spoon thinks your sniping, just chuck him in the dishwasher.

Would have to be an industrial one.... My muscle mass would break normal ones..

 

[Taylortwocities]

Folks. Can we turn the wick down on this please??.
IIRC I typed my response to the OP on my iPhone. If you've tried it, one cannot be as expansive as we would like when composing something. My thumbs don't appreciate typing 2000 words to express everything that one should consider when undergoing an electrical task.

I've been sparking a loooong time so I am well aware of the various options that there may be when looking at any sort of wiring. I attempted to simplify my (I thought) helpful response by describing what he would most likely find when he looked at the back of the socket (more than likely a ring final). Knowing there was also the potential of the socket(s) being a spur with a spur from it, or a radial I qualified my reply by saying that "If there are two cables, then it is likely that the original socket is on a ring final circuit. But you would need to test if this is the case."

I had hoped that this would be sufficient to head off the expert pedants, who inhabit forums like this, who seem to spend more time picking holes in any response, rather than being helpful.
@Pete999 . My sniping post was not aimed at you. But I do know exactly who lit the flame! I await my opportunity to respond in kind.

Often I will put a little something in a post to tweak a bit of a response from the OP.
Something like the OP says "can you tell me how to test if the socket is on a ring final".
To which we respond "What sort of test equipment do you have"
OP says "I've got a neon screwdriver"
We reply "Get yourself a multimeter".
etc......

I guess, at the end of this 4 page tirade, the end result is that the OP is having an electrician to advise him.

I'll get in touch with my electrician and get more advice from him, thanks

Time to move on?

Love and kisses to most of you
TTC

 

[Spoon]

Folks. Can we turn the wick down on this please??.
IIRC I typed my response to the OP on my iPhone. If you've tried it, one cannot be as expansive as we would like when composing something. My thumbs don't appreciate typing 2000 words to express everything that one should consider when undergoing an electrical task.

I've been sparking a loooong time so I am well aware of the various options that there may be when looking at any sort of wiring. I attempted to simplify my (I thought) helpful response by describing what he would most likely find when he looked at the back of the socket (more than likely a ring final). Knowing there was also the potential of the socket(s) being a spur with a spur from it, or a radial I qualified my reply by saying that "If there are two cables, then it is likely that the original socket is on a ring final circuit. But you would need to test if this is the case."

I had hoped that this would be sufficient to head off the expert pedants, who inhabit forums like this, who seem to spend more time picking holes in any response, rather than being helpful.
@Pete999 . My sniping post was not aimed at you. But I do know exactly who lit the flame! I await my opportunity to respond in kind.

Often I will put a little something in a post to tweak a bit of a response from the OP.
Something like the OP says "can you tell me how to test if the socket is on a ring final".
To which we respond "What sort of test equipment do you have"
OP says "I've got a neon screwdriver"
We reply "Get yourself a multimeter".
etc......

I guess, at the end of this 4 page tirade, the end result is that the OP is having an electrician to advise him.


Time to move on?

Love and kisses to most of you
TTC

Looking forward to my kiss...

 

[Risteard]

Folks. Can we turn the wick down on this please??.
IIRC I typed my response to the OP on my iPhone. If you've tried it, one cannot be as expansive as we would like when composing something. My thumbs don't appreciate typing 2000 words to express everything that one should consider when undergoing an electrical task.

I've been sparking a loooong time so I am well aware of the various options that there may be when looking at any sort of wiring. I attempted to simplify my (I thought) helpful response by describing what he would most likely find when he looked at the back of the socket (more than likely a ring final). Knowing there was also the potential of the socket(s) being a spur with a spur from it, or a radial I qualified my reply by saying that "If there are two cables, then it is likely that the original socket is on a ring final circuit. But you would need to test if this is the case."

I had hoped that this would be sufficient to head off the expert pedants, who inhabit forums like this, who seem to spend more time picking holes in any response, rather than being helpful.
@Pete999 . My sniping post was not aimed at you. But I do know exactly who lit the flame! I await my opportunity to respond in kind.

Often I will put a little something in a post to tweak a bit of a response from the OP.
Something like the OP says "can you tell me how to test if the socket is on a ring final".
To which we respond "What sort of test equipment do you have"
OP says "I've got a neon screwdriver"
We reply "Get yourself a multimeter".
etc......

I guess, at the end of this 4 page tirade, the end result is that the OP is having an electrician to advise him.


Time to move on?

Love and kisses to most of you
TTC

There wouldn't have been a problem if you'd used "might be a ring final" rather than "likely to be a ring final" as that is simply misleading as it suggests that the number of conductors indicate this when in fact they do not.

 

[Spoon]

There wouldn't have been a problem if you'd used "might be a ring final" rather than "likely to be a ring final" as that is simply misleading as it suggests that the number of conductors indicate this when in fact they do not.

Are we still going on about this. TTC's comment is correct. As the majority of circuits in domestic properties are ring then 'likely' is correct, as is 'might'

 

[Taylortwocities]

I am not going to respond.

Can we turn the wick down on this please??.

 

[EbolaSideRoom]

Just to check, do you mean two cables?

If there are two cables, then it is likely that the original socket is on a ring final circuit. But you would need to test if this is the case. you'll need a multimeter that can test resistance and mains voltage. Do you have one?

As it is a ring, it is best to add the new sockets and unclude them as part of the ring.
You can add a socket to a ring as an addition (known as a spur) but you can only have one spur. it is not permitted to have a spur from a spur.

Sorry. Unclude?

 

[DPG]

Obviously he means 'include'. No point picking faults, nobody else has.