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  1. apdevelopments
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    apdevelopments EF Member

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  2. JulianC
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    JulianC Electrician's Arms

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    Got an air rifle? I know where there's some lights and a hanging basket you can use as target practice...
     
  3. D00DY_T00DY
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    D00DY_T00DY Gorilla Whisperer Electrician's Arms

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    Electrocuted is death by electric shock... Electro(electric) cuted(executed) so technically it was a shock ;) but sounds like a great start to the week OP

    i know you didn't want to go into H&S but maybe that'll make you think about getting a lock off kit
     
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  4. RogertheBodger
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    Proper rant. 10/10. Better tomorrow mate.
     
  5. darkwood
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    darkwood Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Firstly and most strongly you are at fault here not your customer - a verbal warning of power been off is not classed as safe isolation, why didn't you lock of or physically remove the cables?
    Secondly - unless its a massive downpour rain has never stopped me...maybe just a differing attitude there..
    Third and finally - why are you still fitting halogens unless specifically specified by customer I been fitting LED floods for yrs now with no complaints, halogens are prone to wind thus shortended lamp life, waste a lot of energy and have many modern replacements..

    The main point here is safety - 2nd and 3rd point are just observational chitchat and valid reasons may exist for them...but the first point is solely your fault and not the way you were taught to isolate safely, you have no right to get angry with the customer and had you been an apprentice or employee of mine you be on a written warning for gross neglect of safety procedures... sackable depending on the exact circumstances but hopefully the shock has reminded you that your lucky you weren't brown bread.

    I know you said this is not what the post is about but its half the reason your day was crap, why you got angry and why the job must have seemed to drag on... so even forgetting the H&S side of it, getting that slammer still has a lot to answer for... but yep things can only get better:icon12:

    Not sure on your agreement with the customer here but what ever happened to giving an invoice with 28 days to pay?... ither way hope they do cough up and hoping it was just that he wasn't expecting to pay straight away.
     
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  6. ruston
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    Back tomorrow get money - if not lights and hanging basket down.
     
  7. ian.settle1
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    ian.settle1 Forum Mentor

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    Totally no sympathy for you as if you had followed the correct isolation procedure you would have locked it off so it could not be switched back on.
     
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  8. Tidy Max
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    Grim mate, if it makes you feel any better i haven't had a day off since new years day and i was on site for 7 am home for 17.30 and i am back on site for 22.00, 22 spot lights and one emergency light to fit then home.... then back on site for 7.30am...........

    I really hope you don't get shafted mate, fingers crossed!
     
  9. Tidy Max
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    But Darkwood, my NIC assessor scoffed at me for using a lock off kit in a domestic premises. Apparently it was nice that i owned one but pointless in a domestic property........

    My reply of "but the bumbag suits me so well" didn't get a laugh either.
     
  10. Andy78
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    You see you've done wrong there don't you, you listened to a NICEIC assessor on matters of an electrical nature....
     
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  11. ian.settle1
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    Somehow I can not see that standing up in court should you ever get taken there by the HSE because someone was injured due to you not carrying out a proper isolation.
     
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  12. darkwood
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    darkwood Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Dropping the wires out is good enough so yes no requirement ..never said there was but did stress safe isolation procedures should be followed... if your NIC assessor is so adamant that you can relax these procedures in domestic then show him this thread where the OP could have easily been electricuted or even got a shock and been killed by the fall... giving a verbal warning is not good enough as he has found the hard way... not all customers have an intellectual level that I would be happy to bet my life on.

    PS in my early years before all this red tape I learnt to always work as if the cable was energised so if it did become live you have a habitual practice of keeping yourself safe... I still do this today even with safe isolation just by habit.
     
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  13. Tidy Max
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    Who said i don't carry out proper isolation?
     
  14. Tidy Max
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    Tidy Max Regular EF Member

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    I didn't pay much attention to what he said at all and i always carry out safe isolation. I only got registered because a builder who gives me a lot of work has started working for a LABC that won't just accept my qualifications.

    So much so they refused an EIC off me but accept that fact that the NIC just sends them a message saying work has been done at this address its fine so that's that.
     
  15. ian.settle1
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    I was refering to the fact the plonker from the NIC coming out with his stupid comment should someone follow it.
     
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