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  1. Alanm1969
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    Alanm1969 New EF Member

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    my eldest son has autism and learning disabilities. One of his behaviours is messing around with lights - either switching them on and off rapidly for a few seconds or going around switching on all the lights in the middle of the day.

    Yes, we could go into the kitchen cupboard and use the mcb to switch off but a) they are not designed for regular switching on and off and b) it's a pain to do it as we have to lock the cupboard doors!

    What we would like is something that I presume can be wired in close to the mcu that has wireless connectivity so we can switch off more conveniently. Is this possible?

    If not wireless, then we need to have a switch somewhere that is more convenient to use but hidden from my son (perhaps with a closure over it?)

    Many thanks,

    We have two 6a circuits with all light fittings led except for a fluorescent tube in loft.

    Alan..
     
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  2. Ian1981
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    Ian1981 Electrician's Arms

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    Don't know about wireless but you could have the lights wired through a contactor with a single switch controlling the contactor coil
     
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  3. telectrix
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    that's my first thought also.
     
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  4. Ian1981
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    Ian1981 Electrician's Arms

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    Also to give you more control the switch for the contactor could be a key switch
     
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  5. Resu
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    Resu Trusted Advisor

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    Contactor with key switch that way the switch could be somewhere more accessible.

    EDIT: beaten to it!
     
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  6. Andy-1960
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    Andy-1960 Electrician's Arms

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    You could fit a contactor in the cu and switch it via an active relay or plug from one of the smart home systems such as Nest, Hive or Lightwave, etc.
     
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  7. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    Much cheaper and easier to fit LED bulbs in all light fittings, so if the lights are left on the useage won't be much...
     
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  8. telectrix
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    post #1.all are LED except for loft light.
     
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  9. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    ^^ I must get my eyes tested....
     
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  10. Alanm1969
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    Alanm1969 New EF Member

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    Wow - immediate response - thanks guys. And all in agreement too! Can pass this on to sparky when he arrives!

    Alan..
     
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  11. ImpededLoop
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    ImpededLoop Electrician's Arms

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    Why use a contractor? A 20A DP switch would be sufficient.
     
  12. telectrix
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    not on my watch. 2 circuits in 1 switch is bad practice, unless you meant 2 switches, 1 for each circuit.
     
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  13. Ian1981
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    Ian1981 Electrician's Arms

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    You can have 2 lighting circuits separate in the contactor across separate contacts and just the one switch for the coil.
    You then can keep the lights on 2 separate protective devices.
     
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  14. ImpededLoop
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    ImpededLoop Electrician's Arms

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    Sorry, I missed the final paragraph of the OP which stated two circuits. I wouldn't put two circuits across a DP switch either!

    There could be advantages to having two separate switches so not all of the lights have to be isolated at once. It could be done with 2 grid switches on one plate.
     
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  15. ImpededLoop
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    ImpededLoop Electrician's Arms

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    Sorry I'd missed the bit about 2 circuits! :)
     
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  16. Sooby2
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    Another thought might be a diversion - build a board with some switches and lights on that he can play with to his heart's content.
     
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  17. Madocks
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    Could even get timed switches so they power the lights for 10s and then turns off. He would love that with different lamp colours etc
     
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  18. 7029 dave
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    PIR switches all round.?
     
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  19. Flanders
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    Flanders Regular EF Member

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    You cound change your light switches to key switches , like emergency light test switches , you just need to keep the key out if reach from your son
     
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  20. static zap
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    Maybe leave him with some restricted form of control of a main room light ,( where others may be invading his space ).
    Hiting a button shuts main lights off instantly for 20 sec maybe , then will lock out for 30 min . As it is a form of communication with others in the room .
    (A magic trick he could perform ) .. Stressful if removed !
     
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  21. Michael4321.
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    Hi Alanm,
    If you try to protect your light equipment and also electrical consume and if your electrical Panel have for security I.D. (Interrupter Differential) whom is also one for Lighting and one for Sockets then, you can use an Photo-Sensor (Crepuscular Sensor or another electronic photo-sensor) and electric Contactor connected in serial circuit of Lighting I.D. to electrical Panel. This will work Off for Lighting house in a Sun day and On for all circuits when begin the Night automatically. Also where is places in a house without windows (like a Bathroom for example) you can separate this circuits from electric Contactor to let them in old connection in electrical Panel and other's circuits what you don't need use in Sun day make a new connection to the electric Contactor. The Sensor will be connected in serial connection with Coil of the electric Contactor for command this Off and On. Also, you can call an Electrician with Autorization if you can't do this work alone.
     
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  22. MrLights
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    MrLights Aldo the Haldo

    (Message form my wife who cares for autistic children and adults)...
    What a brilliant idea static zap. I'll be getting Aldo (MrLights) to wire up something like that for one of my clients :)
     
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  23. jaydub
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    jaydub Regular EF Member

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    Why use a contactor when a standard light switch is rated at 10A anyway?
     
  24. spinlondon
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    Could use a 20A DP switch for both circuits.
    Just switch the lines not the neutrals.
     
  25. davesparks
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    Whilst the words appear to all be English, they make no sense at all.

    Try writing in coherent English, there's no time limit on how long you take to write a post so take it slowly and proof read it so that your posts actually make some sense to those who read them.
     
  26. Pat H
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    Pat H Don't ask, get an Electrician in.

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    How about an overall timer for the lighting circuits so off during the day but automatically on for night (allowing local switching on and off) then an override to allow day use if needed.
     
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