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So you'd code 3 an external socket without RCD protection in an existing property?
The clues in my original post matedepends, does this outside socket already have its own rcd?
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So you'd code 3 an external socket without RCD protection in an existing property?
The clues in my original post matedepends, does this outside socket already have its own rcd?
A new sticker is required for consumer units.
PLEASE NOTE
THIS INSTALLATION INCORPORATES AN RCD FOR TW£TS WHO DRILL HOLES WITHOUT CHECKING FOR BURIED CABLES
disconnect and remove socket from wall, shove cables in the hole and walk awayThe clues in my original post mate
Nah, replace with RCD socket.disconnect and remove socket from wall, shove cables in the hole and walk away
its the only solution
blasphemerNah, replace with RCD socket.
It’s just that it’s poor design and doesn’t comply with BS7671.What have people got against CU's with only 1 RCD... Some are making it sound like they trip every month....
How many people on here have a CU with just 1 RCD? How long has it been since it tripped? Mine has been quite a bit. A few years. When the daughter knocked her drink over which was above a socket..
It’s just that it’s poor design and doesn’t comply with BS7671.
What did?I agree, it isn't the best design and it doesn't comply with the current regs, but it did when it went in.
Notwithstanding the fact that I haven't seen the installation in question I would almost certainly have issued an Unsatisfactory assessment in the absence of any 30mA RCD.My interpretation from what you have said is that not having an RCD in the fuse board is an advisory not a fail
Rubbish. What about fused neutrals which complied when installed?My understanding, is that installations which complied at the time of design/construction but do not comply with current editions do not require upgrading.
As such anything that complied at the time of design/construction should only warrant a code C3.
As RCD protection for sockets which would reasonably be expected to supply portable equipment used outdoors was a requirement of both the 15th and 16th editions, it is unlikely that an external non RCD protected socket complied.
In such a situation I would use code C2 for all instances where RCD protection is now required.
What about them?Rubbish. What about fused neutrals which complied when installed?
As far as I am aware, BS7671 has only ever allowed single pole switches, circuit breakers and fuses to be installed in A.C. line conductors, and prohibits any such device (unless linked to all other live conductors) from being installed in earthed A.C. Neutral conductors.You can’t be saying that you would only C3 an installation which employed a fused neutral as part of its fault protection?
However rare this might be.
He's taken out the mains switch and replaced it with the RCD
Then this electrician has taken a perfectly acceptable installation and made it an unacceptable installation.
(Assuming sockets are not likely to be feeding portable equipment outside)
Look it is like this - it probably did meet requirements at the time. Whether it does now or not maybe be the subject of debate, however, for your own and more importantly your tenant's safety fitting one would be a good idea, and not expensive, as you have seen. Do you know what one does? Like I said before the spark has probably been in this situation loads of times before and been completely ignored by penny pinching landlords. Or, there may also be a good reason, so if I were you I would just crack on. He has not taken the mick with his price, IMO. Who was it told you that it should not have failed anyway? Have they been to the installation and done another EICR??
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