Testing after like for like change

[Danielwareham]

When changing fittings i.e. sockets and switches like for like what testing would you do afterwards as a minimum?

 

[Electricalserv]

When changing fittings i.e. sockets and switches like for like what testing would you do afterwards as a minimum?

You don't need to do any tests as you are only changing fittings. I always do Continuity of CPC as this proves polarity....

 

[Danielwareham]

Would you not need a minor works cert? Changing every fitting in the house excluding lights and bathroom accessories. Thanks for reply.

 

[Octopus]

You could do a MWC but where do you draw the line?

 

[paturback]

Would you not need a minor works cert? Changing every fitting in the house excluding lights and bathroom accessories. Thanks for reply.

cant see why unless you modified or added a new circuit?

 

[Danielwareham]

Yep. Seems reasonable that you wouldn't need to issue a MWC but as you can tell I'm new and learning. So if I'm not sure I'd rather come on here and see what others think. Thanks

 

[Octopus]

Its a question of judgement. I'm sure there will be many on here who do MWC's all the time and some who do never. Last time I did a MWC on a like for like change was for a rented property so the landlord had a record.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Yes you should issue a MWC for replacement of any accessory. I will be honest and say I dont. I do carry out a Zs on every accessory that i replace, and record the result on the invoice, which i keep a copy of.

I agree with murdoch, where do you draw the line, i can't afford to take a secretary around with me all day.

Cheers........Howard

 

[Octopus]

Yes you should issue a MWC for replacement of any accessory. I will be honest and say I dont. I do carry out a Zs on every accessory that i replace, and record the result on the invoice, which i keep a copy of.

I agree with murdoch, where do you draw the line, i can't afford to take a secretary around with me all day.

Cheers........Howard

I wonder what NICEIC, Napit, Elecsa would say - shame they don't offer their "corporate"lines on such subjects!

 

[Farmelectrics]

personally i would do the live tests just for peace of mind

 

[andekoch]

I also just do a Zs on the changed accessory to prove polarity and that the protective device is ok and write this on the invoice. I also make a note of the earthing and bonding if I can't immediately see it or it looks like it needs upgrading.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I wonder what NICEIC, Napit, Elecsa would say - shame they don't offer their "corporate"lines on such subjects!

Elecsa say a MWC for all replacements, at least that is what my assessor said last year.
I was also told the same on the 2391 course as well.

Cheers........Howard

 

[ian]

I also just do a Zs on the changed accessory to prove polarity and that the protective device is ok and write this on the invoice. I also make a note of the earthing and bonding if I can't immediately see it or it looks like it needs upgrading.

thats what i do too.

 

[knasher]

i suppose if you do it exactly by the book, its a MWC and the essential tests mentioned on that form

 

[nickblake]

Im with Howard on this one , how many times do you find faults on lighting circuits all the time , i always test dead and live tests and issue a minor works , if you change the light fitting and it has no earth you could be opening your self up for prosicution if some thing happens ,test be safe and sleep at night thats what i say

 

[pushrod]

The issuing of a MEIWC for a "like for like" replacement is optional according to BS7671 - the work could be detailed on a receipt. Appropriate inspection and testing, however, is not an option and must be carried out on any job.
As a min i would inspect the protective device, do a Zs and probs an IR on line/neutral and lives/earth if appropriate.