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  2. Pete999
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    Thanks Middy something to help me sleep tonight, seriously cheers
     
  3. Midwest
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    Think it's gonna give me nightmares! Can't take the credit for the link, that was someone else. I'm just wondering what to do with all the old books, they're not exactly Classic Fiction.
     
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    The draft isn't up there yet.

    I hope as many electricians as possible read it and make good sensible comments which might actually get considered by the committee.
     
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  5. Midwest
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    It's set for release by the end of today, I've clicked the tick box to be emailed when its published. Pensively checking my inbox. Need something to read on holiday.
     
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    I'm just concerned that electricians won't bother to read it, comment on it or will submit unhelpful comments that will just get ignored.
    This is an opportunity to try and head off any particularly bad changes, Andy maybe even get them to consider fixing some of the crap that's in there at the moment.
     
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    Which box I can't find one.
     
  8. Midwest
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    If you search for BS 7671 on the bsi web site (once registered), click BS 7671 which should display the DPC. There's a box to tick on the right marked 'Follow'.
     
  9. jaydub
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    Is it known when the 18th will be officially released yet?
     
  10. Midwest
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    If you click the link #1.

    PS July 2018 ish
     
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    Thanks Midwest
     
  12. Midwest
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    Sod it, I'm grabbing a stiff G&T, while I wait. Could be a long wait. :sunglasses:
     
  13. Midwest
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    Wot about not putting BS 1363 sockets on lighting circuits?
     
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    Delete.
     
  15. Midwest
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    Don't be coy Westie
     
  16. Midwest
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    Gonna give em ten more minutes, then my company closes for the summer shut down.
     
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    Yes come on give, Westy
     
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    I was responding to #13 then realised I had misread it:(
     
  19. Midwest
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    That's it, not waiting anymore, gins run out. I'm orrfff. They can stick their stupid DPC, probably load of nonsense anyway.
     
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    It's delayed until close of play Monday 5th June due to technical issues.
     
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    Yeah, their wonderful new arc fault disconnecting device has tripped and nobody can work out why.
     
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    My advice is don't buy the book when it first comes out if you don't have too as it will probably have errors in it, at least the on site guide did and guidance note 3
     
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    Bunch of lite weights. Bet they'll have another excuse Monday. I'm gonna read something else on holiday.
     
  24. Vortigern
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    I pay for a digital subscription that will auto update anything they put out including BS7671 GN1-8 and a few more.
     
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    How much does that cost if you don't mind me asking?
     
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    £260
     
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Is that a discounted member's price?
     
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    Nay
     
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    As the principal subscriber I can invite other people on to my sub. I did this with a few electricians even offerred @Rpa07@Rpa07 to come in, but he didn't, but anyway got most of it paid for. I let people who work for me (improvers) access it as well. It is sterling really.
     
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    Would you mind posting a link to the page where you can subscribe?
     
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    Hmm 83 (sorry 79 now) days to comment and 254 days before they start to resolve the comments, just 63 days before it is published.
    How much attention are they going to be paying to the comments?

    That is not to say you should not comment, it is well worth making sensible and strong reports about the new approaches that we will find out about on Monday night.
     
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    Being a cheap skate, all I need is the latest edition of BS 7671 and possibly the OSG, so too expensive for me.
     
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  36. Midwest
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    Courses, the cheapest way to gain qualification?

    When I did the 17th, spent £400 odd, to spend the weekend with some bloke reading out bits of BS 7671, handing out some Q&A's, bit of discussion, followed by C&G on-line exam. I'd be hard pushed to justify that to my picky customers.
     
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    Picky customers who don't care you are not up to date? Not very picky are they.
     
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    Actually that's the trouble, a lot of customers really wouldn't care and be far more interested in getting work done as cheaply as possible, but that sort are best avoided.
     
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    Yeh I am not interested in customers who want cheap, I only do quality installation and surprisingly there are more customers who want a job done properly than not. Quite a lot of people (some do not) want their electrics safe and properly done and do worry about it.
     
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    Nice idea but..... do they actually take note? or are they just out to generate as much revenue as possible ?
     
  41. davesparks
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    I don't know, but if everyone takes that kind of approach then nothing will ever change.
    It's the same as the ridiculous number of people who don't vote in elections because they think that their one little vote doesn't matter.
     
  42. Midwest
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    They are in dim awareness and haven't a clue as to what you are alluding to.
     
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    My assessor said a lot was to do with energy saving lighting, but we will see.
     
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    Still waiting............
     
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