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Did you know about the snoopers charter ? Its been going on for years

  1. yes heard about when it started in November 2015 when it started going through the various stages of

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  2. No this is the first I have heard of it

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  1. Barry White
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    Well this seems to have been swept through without much publicity.(By the folks who control publicity)
    see The Government just passed the most extreme surveillance law in history – say goodbye to your privacy - http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/snoopers-charter-theresa-may-online-privacy-investigatory-powers-act-a7426461.html
    "Well I don't do anything wrong so it wont affect me ? "
    Well it wont if you are an MP the very people who have introduced the bill have exempted themselves.
    MPs just passed the most draconian spying laws ever. Guess who they made exempt - http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/investigatory-powers-bill-a7447781.html

    Here's a list of who can snoop on you now.

    Metropolitan police force
    City of London police force
    Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
    Police Service of Scotland
    Police Service of Northern Ireland
    British Transport Police
    Ministry of Defence Police
    Royal Navy Police
    Royal Military Police
    Royal Air Force Police
    Security Service
    Secret Intelligence Service
    GCHQ
    Ministry of Defence
    Department of Health
    Home Office
    Ministry of Justice
    National Crime Agency
    HM Revenue & Customs
    Department for Transport
    Department for Work and Pensions
    NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
    Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
    Competition and Markets Authority
    Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
    Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
    Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
    Financial Conduct Authority
    Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
    Food Standards Agency
    Food Standards Scotland
    Gambling Commission
    Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
    Health and Safety Executive
    Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
    Information Commissioner
    NHS Business Services Authority
    Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
    Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
    Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
    Office of Communications
    Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
    Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
    Scottish Ambulance Service Board
    Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Serious Fraud Office
    Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust

    Under the guise of counter-terrorism, the British state has achieved totalitarian-style surveillance powers – the most intrusive system of any democracy in history. It now has the ability to indiscriminately hack, intercept, record, and monitor the communications and internet use of the entire population.



    Anyone read the book 1984?

    Would be interested in your comments please.
     
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  2. Wilko
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    Gob smacked at the list ...
    WTF has 9/10ths of that lot got to do with securing our safety from terrorists?
     
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  3. snowhead
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    Millions of people have been illegally hacking into computer systems since the Internet came into being.
    Phone calls have been tapped from the beginning of the phone system
    What difference does it make now that some of them can obtain your information, without hacking, legally?

    And MP's are NOT exempt, there is an additional level of authorisation before their information is accessed.

    Assume the Internet is unsafe and you'll have no problems.
     
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  4. Barry White
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    Yes only via the prime minister!! can mps be snooped upon!

    Everything we do and say is on the internet you can't avoid it even living off grid.

    Would like a poll on who knew about this serious law being introduced and who did not.
     
  5. Spoon
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    I feel sorry for the person who has to snoop on me. They will be bored silly... Unless they like YouTube videos of Minecraft and 7D2D
     
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  6. Marvo
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    There's is no freedom anymore,

    Every breath you take and every move you make
    Every bond you break, every step you take,
    Every single day and every word you say
    Every game you play, every night you stay,
    Every move you make, every vow you break
    Every smile you fake, every claim you stake, they'll be watching you
     
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  7. Marvo
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    Absolutely nothing, they'll try and sell it to the sheep as security from terrorists or preventing kids seeing pron or preventing sexual predators but they're just legitimising into law what they've been doing illegally for years.
     
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  8. FatAlan
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    To be frank I'm more worried about the data that the private comms companies hold on us and sell on for profit.
     
  9. Marvo
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    Marvo Admin and gender confused Staff Member

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    The problem is that they're collecting enormous amounts of data about you and they're increasing the availability of that data to every Tom, Dick and Harry.

    Your freedom is gone and the question you have to ask is do you feel safe from terrorists and paedophiles? If you do feel safe then you've traded you freedom and privacy for your safety, if not then you've sacrificed your freedom and privacy for nothing. Either way beware though, it's a small step from a surveillance state to a totalitarian state.
     
  10. Marvo
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    Out of interest I'd be interested to know how many people actively take measures to maintain their privacy.
    Things like using Tor, VPN's, fully encrypted messaging apps, local disk encryption, secure and encrypted email services, secure cloud storage and sync, complex passwords and 2-stage verification/authorisation, private search engines (duckduckgo etc), avoiding smart phone use, avoiding partaking in social media platforms.
     
  11. Barry White
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    Just look at the list
    Department for Transport
    Department for Work and Pensions
    NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
    Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
    Competition and Markets Authority
    Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
    Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
    Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
    Financial Conduct Authority
    Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
    Food Standards Agency
    Food Standards Scotland
    Gambling Commission
    Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
    Health and Safety Executive
    Information Commissioner
    NHS Business Services Authority
    Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
    Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
    Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
    Office of Communications
    Scottish Ambulance Service Board
    Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust

    Do you think the above are secure. Even charity's sell our information. Do you honestly think they have an interest in terrorism? Or have any interest or means to stop Pedophiles.

    Deffo 1984 NOW
     
  12. Barry White
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    A taste of whats could now happen remember the Tiananmen Square masacre in china well it didnt happen in china!
    From 6 Things You Should Know About the Tiananmen Square Massacre - http://time.com/2822290/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-time/

    Chinese authorities still censor information about the massacre

    More than a quarter century after the massacre, the Chinese government’s extensive censorship apparatus—which employs two million online censors — still rigorously blocks information about the protest. The ban is so total that not only is the search term “Tiananmen Square” censored, but so too are related words and phrases. Authorities have even gone as far as blocking combinations of the numbers 6, 4, 1989 that might obliquely reference the date of the protest, June 4, 1989. So for many members of the world’s largest online population, the facts about the bloody crackdown have been erased.
     
  13. Pete999
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    FSB
    MOSSAD
    CIA
    FBI
     
  14. Wilko
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    With this in one hand, apparently we are putting our nuclear and telecoms infrastructure in their other. What could possibly go wrong?
     
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  15. FatAlan
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    RIPA has been in place since 2000 chaps so not a lot has changed. The issue is getting data out out the internet companies. Surveillance authorities are a real pain in the arse to get authorised (quite rightly) as not only do you have to justify breach of privacy but they cost a fortune especially if you are looking at physical surveillance teams. They have to be very specific. If you think police forces go on fishing trips you are barking up the wrong tree. The security services hunting for the next bomber will be looking for needles in haystacks but I don't have a problem with that.
    I do have issues with local authorities watching to see if people put their bins out on the right day!
     
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