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  1. Phil Griffiths
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    what 2 methods are they to determine the sustainability of a protective conductor for thermal constraints during earth fault conditions??

    And might be a long shot but can anyone tell me what component of a RCD will operate for a ..
    a. line to earth fault 2.3 ohms
    b. line to neutral fault 0.01 ohms
    c. neutral to earth fault negligible impedance
    d. an overload approx twice the nominal rating of the device

    For a 230V single phase circuit Thanks again.
     
  2. Pete999
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    Homework question?
     
  3. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Yeah he had another one going on Saturday.
     
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    hightower Electrician's Arms

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    We'll not just answer homework questions straight. Start by telling us what you think the answers are etc
     
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    the answeer to a,b,c,and d is the bits inside. :(
     
  6. stantheman
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    Excluding b and d of course.
     
  7. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Why's that then.
     
  8. stantheman
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    Why is it not?
     
  9. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Tis all the bits inside.
     
  10. Phil Griffiths
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    Well the first question i don't have a clue that why i have came on here to ask, as for the second set of questions i have had a go and have got this ..

    a. RCD - thermal due to earth leakage from line conducted.
    b. MCB - magnetic due to difference between natural and line conductors.
    c. RCBO - magnetic - due to current passing threw earth
    d. RCBO - thermal due to overload.

    more then likely its wrong so can you help.
     
  11. stantheman
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    .....But the 'bits inside' a RCD will not cause it to operate for conditions b & d, RCBO's however....
     
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  12. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    I see where you are coming from now just reread post.
     
  13. DPG
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    Yes, i think he has written the question down wrong. It should say RCBO as far as I can see. Daz.
     
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  14. Phil Griffiths
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    RCD/RCBO sorry.
     
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  15. Lucien Nunes
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    Lucien Nunes Mercury Arc Rectifier Trusted Advisor

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    In real life, if you put in an RCD where you wanted an RCBO you could burn someone's house down - then you would be sorry!

    Your answer to D is correct. Points to ponder re your other answers:
    A, is the 'leakage sensing' differential mechanism thermal?
    B, what difference are you thinking of?
    C, can an RCBO sense current passing 'through earth?'

    Finally with the protective conductor question, if you haven't got a clue, don't waste time on here, get those books out and start reading...
     
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  16. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Two are the thermal/magnetic parts of the device, the other two the rcd sensing parts of the device. Op which ones go with which?
     
  17. Phil Griffiths
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    i take it d and c are the sensor parts of the device, and a and b are magnetic and thermal?Thermal would trip once an overload occurs cause the metal strip to bend, and magnetic for small or moderate overload?
     
  18. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    I have misworded that, I would say only one relates to the rcd sensing parts.
     
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