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Nothing of what you said changes the fact that you use simple generalisation to blanket a very wide, varied part of the political spectrum.
Yes. Because what was once wide and varied, is now narrow and blinkered.
Indeed, the fact that you claim to be of the left while asserting that the left has no plausible argument leaves you in an invidious position.
The left gave up on their socialist principles a long time ago in favour of unfettered corporatism. Now its trying to wrench it's way towards socialism but missed it by a mile on its way past on its journey to outright regressive authoritarian leftism.
If , by the 'left', you mean the Labour party, then I think they departed the mainstream of leftist thinking with the advent of the Blair years. jeremy Corbyn, despite his own shadow cabinet constantly undermining him, seems at least to be trying to take the party back to where it belongs.
No, he's not. He panders the the vocal minority. He cozies up to enemies of the state. He preaches nuclear disarmament in a world with increasing nuclear threat. And he apologises for Islam, one of the most dangerous and most backward ideologies ever to face humankind.
He may well fail, but he at least appears to be having a good go at it. If, on the other hand, you are referring to the more marginal parties, then what does it matter? They have no power to truly affect public life. The danger I see here is that, while you claim that people are accused of various 'isms' while being, in your view at least, innocent of those charges, we may well dangerously ignore the real, insidious forces which threaten our perceptions and eventually our society.
I'd far rather live under David Cameron than Jeremy Corbyn, and for someone who genuinely wouldn't pi$$ on a tory if they were on fire, that's saying something!
To give one example, let's take homophobia. If a Christian says that they cannot support gay rights, as a matter of conscience, they are being disingenuous. they are being homophobic because they are being highly selective in quoting Christian teachings. When Christian moralists demand the death penalty for eating pork, or eating black pudding, perhaps I'll take them seriously. Until then, I'll continue to call them homophobes. We could go on all day swapping examples, but it would be fruitless. All sides of politics have their moderates, critical thinkers and lunatics. The left isn't unique there.
I couldn't disagree more. If by 'gay rights' you mean equality, then I'm not sure I know of anyone other than a very small section of society (and I'm talking probably a few thousand people nationwide here) who wouldn't want that. If however what you're doing is conflicting gay rights with gay marriage, then not only is that wrong, but this is what is disengenuous.
The gay marriage argument has never been about some sort of liberation of gay people. What it is however is an attempt, mainly by leftists, to impose upon society the most grandest of all bigotries, in that anybody who holds the OPINION that gay marriage should not take place will not just be excluded from debate, no platformed and silenced, but they will be hounded, bullied and treated as pariahs just as gay people were treated before the law making homosexuality a crime was rightly abolished.
Now for the record I am not religious, nor as a result do I believe in the institute of marriage, however I do respect the right of religious people to believe in their own bonkers ways of allowing people to commit to each other. The assertion however that despite a religious person's belief in a make believe deity their belief that gay marriage should not take place somehow means that they dislike gay people, has got to be one of the most false assertions I've ever heard!
Gay people had equal rights under the eyes of the law with civil partnerships. Marriage, as far as I understand it, was and always has been a religious institution. It's my opinion that anyone has the right to believe in whatever they want, and the simple belief, no matter how odd it may seem, that under God marriage is between a man and a woman, is not in itself homophobic.