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  1. EvilHamster
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    Hi everyone.

    I realise that this is probably the wrong place to ask this question. But I was not sure where to ask.
    I wanted to know how one should go about finding a decent electrician in the UK. The last two times we rang for repairman here got utter scam-artists. I do not throw that word around carelessly. Even criminal if you ask me.
    As it turns out, ( I only saw that a bit later), they were both associated with rightio. I don't know if you guys know them, but my experience with them was so bad, that I am afraid to let a repairman in my house.

    I wanted to know if there exists, for example, an official webpage by the British government, where one can look for certified electricians etc. or companies. But again, ones that are associated to the British government (for example the city council etc.). Is there such a thing? I realise they might be a bit more expensive, but at this point, it is wroth it to me.

    Cheers everyone.
     
  2. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    A good place to start would be:-

    Home - http://www.electricalcompetentperson.co.uk/
    NAPIT | Promoting Excellence in the Building Services & Fabric Sector - http://www.napit.org.uk
    Supporting contractors in the building services sector | NICEIC - http://www.niceic.com

    However... just because someone is registered with these schemes, it does not mean they aren't scam artists, nor should you rule out someone who is not a member of these schemes (other schemes also exist - Stroma for example).

    Depending on the electrical work you require you may or may not need a local authority building control notification. Members of these schemes can do the work and then notify, sparks who aren't have to jump through a few hoops when doing notifiable work.

    The best way to find a reliable tradesman is personal recommendation. You could also try the business networking group BNI. By it's very nature, members of BNI are likely to be all the things you want because if they weren't, they would probably be booted out.
     
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  3. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Just noticed, you're in Leicester. I'm originally from Leicester, so if you get stuck, I'm sure I can point you in the direction of a few sparks (I know one personally and a friend of mine - also from Leicester - knows a couple).

    PM me your contact details if you get stuck and I'll pass them along.
     
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  4. EvilHamster
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    Thank you very much for your replay. It is not a big job. It is a small one. It is kinda sad to see that there are no electricians under the city council for example. Would have been a nice thing.

    Btw. when it comes to say working on Gas etc. one can ring up the gas providers. For example British Gas and they send someone over. Is there such a thing for electric providers? Is there an electricity provicer who also have repairmen for small repair jobs etc?
     
  5. Wilko
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    Wilko Electrician's Arms

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    You could also post on here - if you are not happy the spark knows you can rubbish them to all their mates :rolleyes:
     
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  6. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    What job is it you need doing?

    Your energy suppliers may do work, but they are likely to be more expensive than a local spark or gas engineer. In the case of electricity, their responsibility typically ends at the service head or meter (depending on whether it's the distribution network operator or electricity supplier respectively), after that it's your responsibility.

    And yes, as @Wilko@Wilko says, you can post on here.
     
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  7. EvilHamster
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    True enough. But let me put it like this. Imagine a person who knows nothing about computers and he rings up a `computer help site (you know the ones I mean)'. They utterly scam him, twice. That person would be a bit paranoid at that point. Please don't misunderstand me. It is nothing personal, in any way, shape or form. I would just at this stage be willing to pay a little more and know that they are the real deal.

    If I can not find a very official company, I will most likely post here. But I guess you can understand where I am coming from. If it was about carpeting, I would be less paranoid.

    Again, thanks both for writing. I guess the first thing to do is ring up the electricity provider. Perhaps they can at least make an official recommendation...
     
  8. Specialist
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    Hi: Sorry to hear you've had such problems with Electricians.
    Beware though, just because an Electrician works for a Council or Electricity board it does not mean that the quality of they're work is any better than the work of a good, independent electrician.
    If you take a look at our find an Electrician feature, I'm sure you could find someone in your area. Alternatively as has already been suggested, ask neighbours or friends for recommendations.
     
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  9. Vortigern
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    Vortigern Electrician's Arms

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    That could be libel?
     
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  10. Wilko
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    It would be painful, but not libel if true.
     
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  11. SJD
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    As mentioned, many of us don't do work for the council or any electricity suppliers. In fact, if my local council called me with some work they needed, I'd probably decline as I'd be dubious about how many months they'd take to pay me. In fact the only time they (or their agent) do call is to try to sell me a dubious paid for inclusion on a council list of contractors, which I also decline. I'm sorry, but it is not a reliable indicator.
     
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  12. davesparks
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    British Gas are the last people you want working on your house!

    Unfortunately there is no sure fire way to guarantee the quality of a tradesman. However getting recommendations and getting more than one quote is a big help.
     
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  13. rolyberkin
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    rolyberkin Electrician's Arms

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    Get on Facebook find your local community page and ask who has used a local electrician, you will get a raft of local electricians offering their services, look for the posts where people are recommending someone rather than offering a service. The check competent persons register etc. And do not use British Gas!:)
     
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  14. maguirex4
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    Please don't use British Gas for Electrical work, a few years ago when I had my boiler fitted by them. I had too have my water and gas earth bonded. They used one cable (no issues there) for water and gas. A week after they left the cable fell of the gas pipe and I discovered many months later the water rather than looping without a break had been cut so it wasn't a continuous run to the end (the gas meter)
     
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  15. Murdoch
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    ^^ there is no reg saying it must be continuous.
     
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  16. wirepuller
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    There are regs on good practice and workmanship though.
     
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  17. wirepuller
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    To the OP. I would look for a small local company that has been trading in your area for many years. Local people who stay local totally rely on reputation, word soon gets around if they provide poor service.
     
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  18. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    Totally agree with that. I was taught to make it one continuous run.
     
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    continuous is best practice as when wet-pants disconnects the water bond, at least the gas bond is still intact.
     
  20. Specialist
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    Personally, I prefer to run separate 10mm to both Gas and Water mains. Don't really see any advantage to looping.
     
  21. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    My preference is separates, but at a stretch if you have to run one, then I would loop it as a continuous cable segment.
     
  22. Specialist
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    Hi SC: Can't think of anywhere off hand I've ever had to loop an Earth from Gas to Water.
    As far as I can see though, what Murdoch says is correct. There isn't anywhere that I can find in the regs that says it has to be one continuous conductor.
    So best practice aside, what BG "Apparently" did by looping wasn't actually against the rules. If one of the Earths did actually fall out then yes it was bad workmanship.
     
  23. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    I'm not questioning whether it is or isn't against the regs and like you I've not had to run a single (although obviously in a much shorter career), but if I had to I would loop it rather than cut it.

    The only instance I could think of where a single may be the only option is purely budgetry constraints. CU in one corner of the house, incoming services in the other with a very convoluted cable route and maybe customer is a bit strapped for cash. It's a purely hypothetical situation that I haven't encountered, but I was taught to loop not cut.

    Maybe it's a tiny job and the bonding needs an upgrade so it's one of those things they hadn't planned on and they haven't got much cash. As I say, at this moment purely hypothetical.

    And on that note, got to go and do another job for the plumbers :)
     
  24. Specialist
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    Hi SC , didn't mean that you were questioning the regs. It was sort of an all inclusive reply.

    Let's hope no idiot runs into the back of you today.
     
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    if it's a longish run and both services are in the same area, I'd loop.
     
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  26. wirepuller
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    Might mean less cable and less work, some may see that as an advantage!
     
  27. Specialist
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    I'm not saying that it might not save a bit of cable & work, but from my point of view it's better to have separate bonds & that's how I've always done it, I price for it in the job so lose nothing.
    It often swings & roundabouts anyway with one or other being reasonably close to the CU.
    I'm not trying to convince anyone to change the way they might do things or that my way is better than theirs, Just saying that's the way I've always done things.
     
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