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  1. omoeko
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    Hello Everyone,

    I am not sure of the etiquette here on the forum, but I would like to start by extending warm greetings to everyone in the house. This forum is very useful for me and I have learnt a lot from it.

    I would like to ask a question, its about the list of materials required to wire a 5 bed house. I have the list below, and would like to know if its correct etc.

    3/4 double sockets per bedroom, and everywhere will have spot lights apart from the bedrooms. I also plan to use a double electric oven, which is rated at 4,400W and hence a 6mm cable needs to be used. The distance is about 10m from the board to the kitchen. Below are the oven specification.

    Energy efficiency class (2010/30/EC) - cavity 2 : A Energy consumption per cycle forced air convection - cavity 2 (2010/30/EC) : 0.80 Energy efficiency index (2010/30/EC) : 112.9 Energy efficiency index cavity 2 (2010/30/EC) : 94.1 Electrical connection rating (W) : 4400 Current (A) : 20 Voltage (V) : 240 Frequency (Hz) : 50




    Description Quantity
    Non fire rated spot lights (Lounge) 10
    Non fire rated spot lights (hall by door) 4
    Non fire rated spot lights (family living area) 12
    Non fire rated spot lights (Kitchen) 8
    Non fire rated spot lights (Upstairs landing) 6
    Non fire rated spot lights (Downstairs toilet) 4
    Non fire rated spot lights (Utility room) 2
    Bathroom spotlights (Upstairs bath) 6
    Bathroom spotlights (Upstairs Ensuite) 4
    External spot lights for outside 6
    Pendant light 8
    Smoke Alarm 2
    Heat Sensor 1
    Extractor fan 3
    12/15 way board with MCB's 1
    Kitchen Extractor Chimney 1
    Shower shaving socket 2
    Isolator for extractor fan 3
    1.5mm brown cable 100m
    1.5mm blue cable 100m
    1.5mm GREEN/YELLOW cable 100m
    3 core flexible cable 50m
    2.5mm 3 core cable 200m
    1.5mm Twin and earth cable 200m
    2.5mm blue single core cable
    2.5mm brown single core cable
    Earth bonding
    10mm green earthing
    2 gang switch 4
    3 gang switch 1
    1 gang switch 8
    1 gang switch white 2
    Outside floor light 2
    Fused spur with neon light 3
    13amp socket plug 2
    Double socket chrome 35
    Double socket white 6
    Cooker switch chrome 1
    6mm cable for cooker 10M
    6mm armour cable for garage 12m
    Coaxial cable for Tv 50m
    Coaxial socket for satellite 2
    Electrical trunking 75 x 50mm - 2.4 metres 2.4m
    Carbon monixide detector 1
    50 pieces of open Grommet 25mm
    2 Gang External plug socket 1
     
  2. Jurassic Sparks
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    Jurassic Sparks Regular EF Member

    Are you a Qualified electrician ?
    are you registered with a trade body for Part P ?

    As of 1 January 2005 it is a legal requirement for all work on fixed electrical installations in dwellings and associated buildings to comply with relevant standards. The relevant UK standard is BS 7671:2008, 'Requirements for electrical installations' (The IEE Wiring Regulations 17th Edition). BS 7671 covers requirements for design, installation, inspection, testing, verification and certification.

    Best you ask for a reputable Suitably qualifed and registered contractor to carry out the installation for you, and then to provide you with the relevant certification and registration to the Local Authority

    or risk electrocuting yourself or a massive fine or both
     
  3. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    Is this for DIY or for a paying customer?
     
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  4. omoeko
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    omoeko Active EF Member

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    I am not doing the work myself, as i am not an electrician. Just want to ensure that the list of materials is somewhat correct, as i supply the materials to the sparkie.
     
  5. Andy78
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    Then you would be best checking the list of materials with the person carrying out the work so they can check it is suitable.
     
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  6. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    you are on your own matey....... this forum isn't going to give you a detailed list so you can supply cheap and nasty products to some unsuspecting sparks.
     
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  7. Jurassic Sparks
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    Or try to get them cheaper elsewhere !
    I make a small profit on my materials, I will even let you in to a secret
    its 20 percent
    that covers my time, my knowledge, and the fact that I often forget something, and have to pay for it myself

    if you take your expensive German car in for a service, do you purchase the oil and filters, plugs, brake pads as cheaply as you can ?
     
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  8. omoeko
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    omoeko Active EF Member

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    Dont be so negative and quick to judge, i was given a list of materials by my sparkie and I thought it would be good to have it checked by someone else to ensure its correct etc.
     
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  9. Andy78
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    Without seeing the job we cannot know if it is correct. That is for you and your electrician to work out.
    If they have produced the list for you why are you asking about it on here ? Don't you trust the electrician ?
     
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  10. omoeko
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    omoeko Active EF Member

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    Just double checking.

    Thats all.

     
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  11. Jurassic Sparks
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    It is not negative, you do realise that the Law changed a few years ago, Corporate Manslaughter can be used to Imprison a person who kills through poor workmanship/shoddy materials, unskilled labour

    if the Electrician has missed something off ( it happens) then you will have to pay for it later

    You have a contract with a Sparkie, even a verbal contract is a contract in law
    if he gets it wrong argue it with him
    or do you think he is trying to make a few quid by getting you to provide extra materials ?
    Hows that Nice German Car ? an AUDI is it ?
     
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  12. Murdoch
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    If that list was created by a spark then he or she isn't a very good one...

    Do you have ANY idea of the knowledge of the parts and time it takes to get this all right?

    Whenever somebody tries to do this to me I simply point out that for every minute/hour wasted by the parts being wrong/ not available will be changed at my normal rate.................... and I won't warranty anything that the client has supplied.....

    So no, not being negative. Simply realistic.
     
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    My Motor Engineer ( he is a Proper motor engineer) had a chap in with a Skoda Octavia Diesel Estate identical to mine
    Cam belt change was due, John quoted for normal service, plus cam belt, idler pulleys, tensioner, water pump, and Aux belt, plus some bolts that need replacing at the same time
    Chap decided that John Knew nothing, and bought a cam belt off ebay
    got a mate to fit it ( who is a mechanic, well works at quick fit)
    4 weeks later spanking up the M way on Holiday
    water pump seizes, strips belt
    pistons hit valves, massive bang
    the car had only done 35K and is now worth 100 quid for scrap
    my Octavia that was always serviced using the correct parts, recently passed 200K in the hands of its new owner
    I never bothers asking him what parts were needed or how much they cost
    just left him to it
    some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing
     
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  14. Pete999
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    Don't think he would be happy with the single core cable you want to supply him with, or the 2.5 3 core and earth come to that
     
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  15. Pete999
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    He won't be happy with that arrangement either.
     
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