wiring downstairs light circuits

[driverman]

As some of you know, I'm doing a first fix for family member. I now know that in a modern house its best to do loop method of wiring from switch to switch due to modern day down lighters and light fittings only accepting one cable. I did have a thought though (bear with me) as there are 3 x cupboards on the ground floor of using flush joint boxes in each one to wire the various light switches to etc. I would still loop each LED down lighter together though. so all j/boxes would be accessible for test inspection and maintenance. Anyone done similar? thanks

 

[davesparks]

Yes, I much prefer wiring lighting using the central joint box method and have put them in cupboards before if there is space and it will be possible for anyone to find it again in the future.

 

[driverman]

Yes, I much prefer wiring lighting using the central joint box method and have put them in cupboards before if there is space and it will be possible for anyone to find it again in the future.

Great, I was expecting to put my battered tin hat on again! what type, manufacture do you use? Is there a standard product out there? Possible din -rail connection, wagos?. I've only used J701 I think they were called. Thanks

 

[7029 dave]

As^^^^

 

[davesparks]

J701 does fine for me.

 

[Guest77]

I don't like the joint boxes method myself, however thats choice, theres nothing wrong with it.

 

[vernam616]

I very rarely use 3 plate to the rose, pain in the backside for 2nd fixing and for customers who like changing their own fittings

I tend to wire to the switchs or of late i have been wiring a central joint box which consists of a large plastic adaptable box , series of stuffing glands drilled in, all cables labelled and connected accordingly and then positioned in a place which is accessible

 

[telectrix]

the good old spider wiring, brought from the 60's into the 21st century.

 

[vernam616]

the good old spider wiring, brought from the 60's into the 21st century.

Still wire the cpc's with no sleeving round the outside of the adaptable box irate:

 

[Johnuk]

or just cut the cpc lol

 

[Octopus]

what cpc?

 

[dazza1981]

As some of you know, I'm doing a first fix for family member. I now know that in a modern house its best to do loop method of wiring from switch to switch due to modern day down lighters and light fittings only accepting one cable. I did have a thought though (bear with me) as there are 3 x cupboards on the ground floor of using flush joint boxes in each one to wire the various light switches to etc. I would still loop each LED down lighter together though. so all j/boxes would be accessible for test inspection and maintenance. Anyone done similar? thanks

No problems with that at all, i would still loop out at the switches myself but nothing electrically wrong with your method at all !!

 

[Baker1988]

I per fair the 3plate method but it's just personal preference

 

[Guest77]

3 plate without doubt is a good tried and trusted method, however these days with LED downlights and posh chandaliers wiring through the switches is prefered by a lot of sparks so there is only a pair at the light, I understand that and agree it is a good method, I personally wouldn't create more joints by adding an adaptable box in a cupboard to be the connection unit but it is installed a fair bit these days and again nothing wrong with it, just not my cup of tea.

 

[Knobhead]

Before you all go overboard have a look for the “octopus” wiring system. It’s been around for years. Great for testing and fault finding so long as the central box is accessible.

 

[Octopus]

Before you all go overboard have a look for the “octopus” wiring system. It’s been around for years. Great for testing and fault finding so long as the central box is accessible.

AND labelled properly

 

[driverman]

J701 does fine for me.

I was thinking something on the lines of being flush as opposed to surface box like J701. What about if say an Appleby 665 double metal flush box with a blank plate was used. I've never used Wagos before but could those as opposed to choc - blocks which I would of used years ago.

 

[shanky887614]

3 plate without doubt is a good tried and trusted method, however these days with LED downlights and posh chandaliers wiring through the switches is prefered by a lot of sparks so there is only a pair at the light, I understand that and agree it is a good method, I personally wouldn't create more joints by adding an adaptable box in a cupboard to be the connection unit but it is installed a fair bit these days and again nothing wrong with it, just not my cup of tea.

usually we do 3plate but we do it with a jb next to downlight, can remove downlight to easily gain access if you need to.

 

[Guest77]

usually we do 3plate but we do it with a jb next to downlight, can remove downlight to easily gain access if you need to.

Thats okay if you have a small 20 amp lighting JB, if 1mm2 is used and the downlight hole big enough to get the JB out if required, nothing wrong with it though of course.

 

[shanky887614]

Thats okay if you have a small 20 amp lighting JB, if 1mm2 is used and the downlight hole big enough to get the JB out if required, nothing wrong with it though of course.

we tend to use icage downlights so plenty of space