Yeah i'll go with that so you can see all consumer units are on certificates for the sake of the install, wont hurt for future reference either. I suppose in even bigger installations where there are multiple DB's not associated with one you are installing a new circuit in, it's acceptable not to include these in your installation cert providing the one worked on has certs right back to the origin?If I've understood correctly... it's a new supply to DB4 but no changes in DB4. If so, perhaps an update to the DB4 details showing the new Zdb ?