Anyone got Wiha Torque screwdriver

[Pete999]

If your using the specified nm how's it your fault if the 1mm snaps?

Think he means if you are NOT using a torque driver and you bust it. Mind you I have been known to be wrong.

 

[shanky887614]

bs7671 says take manufacturer's instructions into account not gospel

you are dangerous my friend, overtightening is as bad as undertightening

 

[davesparks]

Think he means if you are NOT using a torque driver and you bust it. Mind you I have been known to be wrong.

I mean regardless of whether he uses a torque screwdriver or not, if he tightens it to the point that the conductor breaks it is too damned tight!

 

[Pete999]

I mean regardless of whether he uses a torque screwdriver or not, if he tightens it to the point that the conductor breaks it is too damned tight!

I agree I was just trying to point out what I thought your post meant.

 

[LankyWill]

I guess according to two people I have no electrical experience And my gold card means nothing. Do you think I hadn't notice the broken 1mm and thought owell I will just leave it loose and walk off? I was just advising the bloke that they can cause 1mm terminations to snap under the NM which the manufacturer recommends. Who do you think you are calling someone else's electrical experience into question anyway? It's a bit rude.

 

[Guest125]

I have just 'liked' far to many of Dave's posts for my liking...

 

[Pete999]

I guess according to two people I have no electrical experience And my gold card means nothing. Do you think I hadn't notice the broken 1mm and thought owell I will just leave it loose and walk off? I was just advising the bloke that they can cause 1mm terminations to snap under the NM which the manufacturer recommends. Who do you think you are calling someone else's electrical experience into question anyway? It's a bit rude.

Don't think either of us deserve that response, I for one NEVER bring your expertise or quals into question,

 

[Guest125]

These torque settings are just a way for the manufacturer to wriggle out of loose connection claims. They know full well no one installs like that and if something goes wrong they can simply say the MCB was not installed as per our instructions. You cannot get a better connection than one that you can feel is tight. No torque drivers and no drills will ever be as reliable.

 

[LankyWill]

Don't think either of us deserve that response, I for one NEVER bring your expertise or quals into question,

Not you pete999 the other two.

Davesparks
Shanky6666

Just being pathetic for the sake of it. Winds me up i was only trying to help the op. Not get into a petty tool measuring match

 

[Guest125]

I sort of hear what they are saying though. The MCB recommendation may not be the same as the cable manufacturer recommendation so which one would you follow? Or just use your hand and common sense to terminate properly.

 

[LankyWill]

I sort of hear what they are saying though. The MCB recommendation may not be the same as the cable manufacturer recommendation so which one would you follow? Or just use your hand and common sense to terminate properly.

Yeah I usually do all the breakers with the torque driver and then all the met and neutrals bars. I leave the 1mms till the end and do them by hand to avoid having to re terminate.

 

[Anthony S]

I do all mine with one of those Yankee Drivers

 

[Guest125]

I just do not trust a machine telling me that it is tight.

 

[Andy78]

Anyone who would tighten a termination and see the cable snap, and not question the validity of the recommended tightening torque or the torque driver, needs their common sense taken into question IMHO

 

[Guest125]

I can understand the first few times. Nice new tool. Don't want to slag it off yet.

Then after the 10th time - bolloxs to this - bottom of my toolbox until the next van tool amnesty....

 

[Anthony S]

Anyone ever changed a Spare Wheel and got their Torque Wrench out to Tighten up the Wheel Bolts ?

 

[shanky887614]

Anyone ever changed a Spare Wheel and got their Torque Wrench out to Tighten up the Wheel Bolts ?

nope because the only flat tyre ive had couldnt be changed as the vechical was in a ditch and the boot was obstructed

 

[davesparks]

Anyone ever changed a Spare Wheel and got their Torque Wrench out to Tighten up the Wheel Bolts ?

Nope, I've only ever used the torque wrench for a few critical things such as tightening cylinder head bolts and tensioning the timing belt

 

[Guest125]

The nearest I have come to one is looking at it on a wholesalers shelve and saying "why would I need one of those?".

 

[LankyWill]

I'm surprised you highly trained God like electricians which you all claim to be don't follow the regs and use one. Baffling

 

[Guest125]

I'm surprised you highly trained God like electricians which you all claim to be don't follow the regs and use one. Baffling

Far from it mate. I have made many many mistakes in my time. Hopefully learnt from them all. Just don't trust those drivers that is all. I trust my own judgement better. If they work for you mate all good. They just don't work for me.

 

[Andy78]

I think you may continue to be baffled for a while to come then.

 

[davesparks]

I'm surprised you highly trained God like electricians which you all claim to be don't follow the regs and use one. Baffling

Which regulation would that be then?

 

[LankyWill]

Following and understanding the manufactures instructions which they all state that the connections should be done to a specific NM.

 

[davesparks]

Sorry, which regulation number is that?

 

[shanky887614]

Which regulation would that be then?

if you use the torque setting and it weakens the mechanical strength of the conductor you are going against the regs.

it only advises to follow manufacturer's instructions it doesnt say you should blindly follow them

 

[LankyWill]

Sorry, which regulation number is that?

Don't know you seem keen though why don't you look it up. Seems you don't have much else going on

 

[davesparks]

Don't know you seem keen though why don't you look it up. Seems you don't have much else going on

You are accusing people of not complying with the regulations, it is only fair that you cite the regulation(s) that you are basing this accusation on.

 

[shanky887614]

Don't know you seem keen though why don't you look it up. Seems you don't have much else going on

134.1.1 it doesnt say "installed in accordance to manufacturer's anymore " anymore

it says take into account in bs7671 Amendment 3:2015

 

[Guest125]

if you use the torque setting and it weakens the mechanical strength of the conductor you are going against the regs.

it only advises to follow manufacturer's instructions it doesnt say you should blindly follow them

I agree. It says you need to 'take account'. So if you read them and made a call on site that they are not appropriate then continued anyway to follow the manufacturers recommendations then you would still be in violation of this reg.

Very carefully worded reg...