Big quote!!!!!!

[HappyHippyDad]

Evening all,

This is a ridiculously long thread, so I dont expect anyone to read it all so I think I'm just looking to see if I'm in the right ball park. I have a friend (experienced electrician) helping me with this job and he will look over the quote as well, but I'd appreciate some opinions from you guys as well in the meantime.

I fully appreciate it's impossible to give much advice without having a lot more information, I think I'm looking for 'yeah, that looks about right' or, 'no thats way too much or too little' if possible.

Very briefly.. RCD protection on all circuits, Main bonding and earthing ok.

My quote £4953 (mainly priced p/point), based on all white sockets/switches. Approx extra £200 if wants LED GU10's.

Cheers guys! :uhoh2:


ELECTRICIAN
GENERALLY
1)All work to be carried out by qualified IEE registered Electrician and inaccordance with
IEEguidelines and with Part P of Building Regulations.
2)Reuse fittings and and sockets where suitable and in good order by agreementwith
client.
3)All electrical and telephone and network cable conduits to be set in to studpartitions or
chasedin sheathed and plastered in masonry walling.
4)All new sockets to be recessed.
5)Before final fixing of sockets and switches and light fittings allow for clientto mark up
arrangementon site.
6)Allow for attendance on other trades and builders work in connection with theseworks.

[h=1]GROUNDFLOOR[/h]
7)Allow for 6no. new twin sockets to suit new layout in Kitchen area. All aboveworktop.
8)Allow for 2no. new twin sockets to suit layout in Dining Area.
9)Allow to relocate twin socket adjacent D2. Allow for chasing in to plaster asnecessary.
10)Allow for 3 gang 2 way dimmable light switch to wall on right of entry fromhall to cover
2pendant lights for dining area and one set of spots in kitchen area
11)Allow for 3 gang 2 way dimmable light switch to wall on left of entry down toLiving
Roomto cover 2 pendant lights for Dining area and one set of spots in Kitchen area
andthe same to right of entry from Hall
12)Allow to fit and connect recessed spotlights in ceiling and two ceiling pendantlights to
beclient supplied
13) Resite / rearrange telephone socket as required.
14)Install Kitchen unit lighting as required (as provided by client)
15)Install new electric oven and separate hob (as provided by client). Include forresiting
existingcooker switch and fused spur as necessary.
16)Install undersink unvented water heater (unit supplied by client). Allow forrelocation of
fusedspur socket as necessary.
17)Supply and install new extractor fan (unit to be client supplied as part ofkitchen fittings).
18)Install speaker cable (supplied by client) in buried sheathing/trunking to befitted on wall
behindsofa at mid level with appropriate end sockets to run to equipment on opposite
wall.Exact positions to be marked in conjunction with client at first fix phase.
19)As noted on drawings, high level location for projector. Allow for buried powersupply to
socketadjacent and for buried and sheathed HDMI cable to link to AV equipment at
floorlevel on opposite wall. (Exact position to be marked in conjunction with clientat
firstfix phase)
20)Relocate existing drop down projector screen and provide power adjacent with
appropriatesocket buried and sheathed in plaster.

[h=2]FIRST FLOOR[/h]
[h=1]LANDING[/h]
21)Allow to relocate lights, switching and sockets to suit rearranged layout

[h=1]BATHROOM[/h]
22)Allow for single light switch adjacent door to landing on rhs.
23)Allow to fit and connect ceiling light to be client supplied
24)Allow to supply and fit shaver light with vanity cupboard (unit to be clientsupplied)
25)Allow for re-fitting electric towel radiator with timer.
26)Fit Power shower pump to be client supplied. To be sited in Airing cupboard toserve
bothshowers or fit power shower to be client supplied.
27)Allow for supply and fitting of ceiling mounted extract fan, separatelyswitched from pull
cordin accordance with current regulations.

[h=1]BEDROOM 1[/h]
28)Allow for 1no. new twin sockets.
29)Allow for refitting of switching.
30)Allow for moving 2no. phone sockets currently sited to LHS of window W22 to be
resited,1no. above current twin socket with 1no. twin socket and phone socket to RHS
ofwindow. Exact positions to be marked by client at first fix stage.
31)Supply and fit 2gang 2way light switch to replace existing adjacent doorentrance.
Switchto control fan/light and light in centre of room independently.

[h=1]ENSUITE[/h]
32)Allow for new light switch in Bedroom adjacent door.
33)Allow to fit and connect 2no. recessed spotlights in ceiling to be clientsupplied
34)Allow to supply and fit shaver socket.
35)Allow to fit vanity light and cupboard, client supplied
36)Allow for supply and fitting electric towel radiator with timer.
37)Allow for supply and fitting of ceiling mounted extract fan, separatelyswitched from pull
cordin accordance with current regulations.
38)Allow for supply and fit of wall heater hard wired with fused spur on wall inBedroom
39)Allow for all electrical requirements for power shower.

[h=1]BEDROOM 2[/h]
40)Allow for 3no. new twin sockets to suit new layout as indicated
41)Allow for double light switch to be dimmable as indicated.
42)Allow to fit and connect surface mounted spotlights on ceiling to be clientsupplied
43)Resite / rearrange mains incoming telephone/internet master socket as required.
44) Resite telephone extension socket

STUDY

45)Allow for 3no. new twin sockets to suit new layout as indicated
46)Allow for single light switch to be dimmable as indicated.
47)Allow to fit and connect surface mounted spotlights on ceiling to be clientsupplied
48)Provide telephone/internet socket and cabling as required (location will bebelow W13)
linked to mains incoming phone master socket in Bed 2.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Without seeing the job it's hard to say but IMO it would be more around the 4k mark here

 

[Octopus]

Thanks for taking the time to look at though guys and offer your thoughts..

You need to remember that a VAT registered quote could be £5K plus VAT = £6K

 

[Sparkie30]

I dont think you can just look at it as £66 per/point though Murdoch. That would mean the 3 extractor fans getting fitted for £198 which would be a bit cheap I think.

Exactly. mate I wouldnt change your quote it's not high at all.

 

[Anthony S]

Without seeing the job it's hard to say but IMO it would be more around the 4k mark here

Mate that's exactly what I wrote down and you can earn well if you do this kind work on a regular basis.

 

[Carlosfandango]

Every business is different, and there is no system on the market which can caterer for every subject.....its takes time to setup but once done will save valuable time...excel is quite simple ..list materials you use in sections per sheet, eg, cable one sheet, consumer units and rcds etc on another sheet etc. each section you can enter cost, quantity and time....once finished your end quoting sheet will display cost, material markup, man hours and labour markup, giving you the overall view of the project, the sheets per section will prevent you from missing vital equipment such as containment....takes time to setup, but becomes just enter quantities when finished.

This is something I really need to get round to doing!! Very difficult finding time just now though between too much work and family life!!

 

[tazz]

Well I can`t post excel files on the forum, but willing to send a cost sheet template for anyone whos interested, its mainly for fire alarms, but nothing stopping you adapting it to anything you wish....just fill out the blanks...and maybe any feed back would help others

 

[Carlosfandango]

My comment wasn't a plea for someone to make a cost sheet up, but if your offering it would be handy to have a guide.

 

[uksparks]

HHD, It sounds a lot of work but the price just seems a bit high to me, then again I tend not to do big jobs like this as I normally get sick of them and wish I'd not started it.

 

[tazz]

My part on the forum is to help....if I can I will, pm if I can help

 

[londonfire]

Sounds about right to me if the property is lived in. A bit high if empty.

 

[123]

A very detailed breakdown HHD, as Murdoch says though a bit too wordy. I did find the font hard to read btw. I can't comment on the cost, it would be cheaper in my area but its just the way it is this side of the pond, its all very location dependant.

These one stuck out for me:
35)Allow to fit vanity light and cupboard, client supplied

What's fitting a vanity cupboard got to do with an electrician?

 

[Knobhead]

I wonder what you customer would have to say if they were to read this thread?

Do you meet the first criteria inGeneral?

 

[Knobhead]

Do you meet the first criteria in General?

I wonder what you customer would have to say if they were to read this thread?

 

[ian.settle1]

What the heck is a qualified IEE registered Electrician when there at home?

Does this mean they have the 17th edition?

The IEE has not been in existance for several years now. It's the IET.

 

[andyelectric]

Is this a live in or live out. If live out seems very high price to me, and I wouldn't be employing you.

If live in. Good luck, I'm sure it will be a learning experience.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Hi HHD

as Murdoch said I'd be strongly suggesting smoke/heat alarms and also explore the need or otherwise for a security alarm while you're trashing the place :49:

So much easier to run the cables then.....

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Is this a live in or live out. If live out seems very high price to me, and I wouldn't be employing you.

If live in. Good luck, I'm sure it will be a learning experience.

The house will be inhabited throughout the contract. Also, it is written in the spec provided by customer that work has to be carried out with little internal disturbance and ALL services are to remain in operation!

Hi HHD

as Murdoch said I'd be strongly suggesting smoke/heat alarms and also explore the need or otherwise for a security alarm while you're trashing the place :49:

So much easier to run the cables then.....

Will definitely be doing this!

As for trashing the place Spartykus, see the spec above! "With little internal disturbance", it's gong to be a nightmare... I'll have to tip toe around in slippers and use a rubber mallet to channel out!! :uhoh2:


I'm beginning to think its perhaps not too high!

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Ah. Lived in.... Ah.

Nightmare. In fact the best way to do that is the best way to chase out....


get someone else to do it......

 

[Simlec]

The house will be inhabited throughout the contract. Also, it is written in the spec provided by customer that work has to be carried out with little internal disturbance and ALL services are to remain in operation!



Will definitely be doing this!

As for trashing the place Spartykus, see the spec above! "With little internal disturbance", it's gong to be a nightmare... I'll have to tip toe around in slippers and use a rubber mallet to channel out!! :uhoh2:


I'm beginning to think its perhaps not too high!

Remember, your in business to make money ! & don't forget that payment is part of the job.

 

[richy3333]

Thanks Tom, looks like it might be a bit high then, although they have had one other quote which was for around £6000.

your price is your price based upon your costings, taking into account all factors. I'd ignore others saying you are too expensive. It's up to the coustomer to decide who they want to use. Sometimes you buy cheap and buy twice.

 

[PEG]

This is not the type of job i would be involved in,but i have been called,when many jobs,such as this,go pear shaped.
The potential for falling out,is latent.
In my opinion,the "No loss of services,little internal disturbance,and working with other trades",will mean sectioning parts of what should be a whole installation. This,will mean individual parts of your quote,will be 2/3 days,instead of one,and those 2/3 days will not necessarily be consecutive...
It will be that,not the number of points,which will wear you down.

I think the fact that you have posted,and respect for that,means you have concerns. Act,according to those concerns.

About five years ago,a good friend asked me if i wanted to get involved on a new build project. It was ambitious,and the developers were known,architects on site etc...I read through the copious spec and agreements,and just got "that" feeling.

I declined,and said the only part i was sure about,was they would fall out,and it would cost half as much again

I was indignantly probed as to why i felt that to be likely,and i had to admit,it was no single thing,just a feeling.

The job went from 800K to 1.2M,and the litigation finished LAST year!

So,i would suggest lining all ducks up......or leave that park. Good luck:icon12:

 

[richy3333]

I'm beginning to think its perhaps not too high!

Don't base this view on the naysayers on this thread. We can also price cheap to get work and then run around like fools.
Lived in work like this is a nightmare with having to deal with customers and moving their crap around sucks time.

BTW Spartykus is excellent at chasing walls and very good value I hear

 

[richy3333]

This should be in the Arms

 

[Risteard]

What the heck is a qualified IEE registered Electrician when there at home?

Does this mean they have the 17th edition?

The IEE has not been in existance for several years now. It's the IET.

Actually the IEE is a brand belonging to the IET, so it still exists. However Amendment 3 has removed the reference to IEE on the spine of the book.

Still doesn't explain what an IEE Registered Electrician is, of course.