Blonde moment

[fredrico]

Doing a job for a kitchen fitter today and i was putting a cooker outlet in and he asked me if i could just put the cable straight from cooker isolator straight to oven instead of a cooker outlet, i told him that I always put cooker outlets in, and to **** off. Is there a reg number in part 5 for that, or is it just one of them good workmanship things. Cheers.

 

[FAA Greenie]

Providing the cable has adequate stress relief protecting the terminals and enough excess to pull the cooker from it's installed position to gain access to it's connections, I would say not a problem.

At it's basic level, the cooker outlet is just another junction box, usually with diagonally installed cabling!!!

At a professional level, it's neater and easier to replace cable crushed by kitchen fitters.....

 

[Rockingit]

CCU's exist because normally where you want to have the point of isolation is some distance/angle from where the actual cooker is so you need a method to get from A to B. However, as has been said, if it can be done without one then I can't see a reason why not too so long as the actual cooker cable is adequately protected. But....consider what happens in the future in terms of replacement and service!!

 

[MDJ]

CCU's exist because normally where you want to have the point of isolation is some distance/angle from where the actual cooker is so you need a method to get from A to B. However, as has been said, if it can be done without one then I can't see a reason why not too so long as the actual cooker cable is adequately protected. But....consider what happens in the future in terms of replacement and service!!

I actaully agree with you here 100%. However some sparks would suggest if it is safe to do so now and no issue then it is no problem, providing the cooker can be pulled out so access could be gained to the connections then it would be okay. Back to my first comment, forget My second I agree with you, it is better to consider future service and replacement, we will never win this argument though.

 

[nadger]

If CCU's are your chosen method when wiring cookers then tell him to sod off!

It's your name on the job not his, stick to your guns mate, don't let people like him lower YOUR standards

 

[Engineer54]

Always go for the cooker connection unit method!! The cooker can then be easilly isolated, disconnected and removed (or replaced), without disturbing the permanent circuit wiring in any way shape or form....

Years ago, there was no such thing as a CCU. The 7/044 T&E cooker connection cable was taken directly from cooker control unit to the cooker, sometimes in embedded metal conduit with a besa box exit (grommeted box lid), embedded conduit exiting the wall with a rubber grommet thingamajig, ...and just about every other method you can think of. Some methods, would mean that replacing the installed connection cable, would be nigh on impossible, with out chipping it out of the wall plaster!!....