Company Van/Previous Disqualification

[WarwickApp]

Hi folks. Thinking of applying for an electrical maintenance job with my local housing association. On their ad it states as a requirement ‘clean driving licence’.

Here’s the shameful bit. I was banned from driving in 2016 for a year, I was over the legal limit the following morning of a night out and was arrested for drink driving. Terrible time of my life and wouldn’t contemplate it again.

Its been just over 4 years since it happened, so on any insurance quotes I still have to declare it, I do up until 5 years after it happening.

Even though a disqualification certainly doesn’t look good, it’s technically still a clean licence, I have no points for speeding etc. Does anyone have any idea if I need to come clean about it should I be offered a job? Or should I perhaps wait till it’s been 5 years before I contemplate applying for such job? I have also heard rumours that company vehicles insurance policies will need to know of any disqualifications for 10 YEARS!! ? not sure if that’s a rumour though, can anyone shed any light?

thanks in advance guys.

 

[plugsandsparks]

Would not be too worried, just tell them. I have been banned twice, whilst company car driver. My employer even paid for a barrister to represent me. OK DD is a bit more serious than a collection of speeding tickets.
My advice, if you get to that point just tell them
Hope this helps
P&S

 

[loz2754]

Honesty is the best policy.
If you are able, ask the interviewer if it will make a difference. You'll at least be in with a chance of getting the job, whereas if you wait another year the you miss this chance.
If you apply and don't disclose it, when they find out, they will not be happy that you didn't tell them. Take the bull by the horns...

 

[ruston]

Yes , come clean, many people will be over the top going to work the next morning after a night out.
If it were me interviewing you I would respect your honesty and courage applying for the job .

 

[Vortigern]

Nothing ventured-nothing gained so go for it. Win or lose at least you failed trying rather than failed to try. That being said, tricky!, Employment law is again different to insurance company requirements and disclosure at interview. I think you should get some advice generally about employment law and the requirements of disclosure. No potential employer is allowed to enquire of any previous criminal or civil acts, so they can't right out ask you any such thing. Clearly you must at some point disclose the matter to your employers, however not in such a way as to prejudice your chances of getting gainfully employed. So bottom line get some legal advice on the matter.

 

[snowhead]

Declare it.
You'll be asked to show your licence before or on the first day of employment or as in my last 15 years or so of employment you'll be asked to sign to agree to allow a third party company to check and monitor your licence.
If your licence isn't "clean" by their definition you won't be starting employment.
Whether "clean" applies in the O.P case I can't say for sure.

 

[DPG]

I agree, be honest.

And much as I hate driving driving, I can't honestly say there hasn't been a time over the years when I might have been borderline the day after. That's why I don't drive the day after at all if I can help it.

 

[Soi disant]

Also, won't the driving licence have a suspiciously recent start date?

 

[Flanders]

Best ask the question before you go to any interview. It may be that the company van insurance will cost a lot more so they may not want to employ you on that basis. On the other hand they will appreciate honesty and may not be an issue. We had a guy come for a job. . Managed to blag his way through the interview. But got booted out on his first day when he turned up with a photocopy of his driving licence. He would not give us his prommision to contact the DVLA to confirm his licence which made us suspicious . A quick Google of his name and address and found that's he was in the local paper showing he was still band from driving!!!

 

[Zerax]

Also, won't the driving licence have a suspiciously recent start date?

I think the 10 year renewal thing means that lots of people have recent start dates now... and your entitlements on the reverse will all show the original dates.

 

[Soi disant]

Ah - I've not moved house for so long, nor ever had it taken away, that I still have my non-photo paper licence, and no experiences of 10-year renewals.

 

[Mike Johnson]

As some of you on here will know driving licence renewals can be age related. ?

 

[snowhead]

As some of you on here will know driving licence renewals can be age related. ?

I've recently had my first 3 yr card.

 

[ruston]

I've recently had my first 3 yr card.

I'm nearly due my second. It goes in quick.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Oh B****r just checked and mine will run out this year.

 

[brianmoooore]

I'm still on the green paper one. Year and a half left on that.

 

[Zerax]

Oh B****r just checked and mine will run out this year.

Can't we say "Bother" anymore ?? Bloody woke millennials again...

 

[Mike Johnson]

Oh B****r just checked and mine will run out this year.

A search through my wallet (that has not been opened for at least a year) revealed a new licence need to push some more old information out of my head to make way for new.

 

[Soi disant]

As some of you on here will know driving licence renewals can be age related. ?

Shut up - I'm trying to pretend that I'm not approaching that date on my licence, and you aren't helping...

 

[snowhead]

Shut up - I'm trying to pretend that I'm not approaching that date on my licence, and you aren't helping...

So you're coming up to 70 then?

I've got an English friend who's lived in France for 15 years, he was 70 around 2 weeks ago and has now lost his licence and is unable to drive.
He blames Brexit, I blame the French for c*cking up the Uk to French licence exchange process.

 

[Soi disant]

So you're coming up to 70 then?

Well, yes. But in a time still measured in years, not months..

I've got an English friend who's lived in France for 15 years, he was 70 around 2 weeks ago and has now lost his licence and is unable to drive.
He blames Brexit, I blame the French for c*cking up the Uk to French licence exchange process.

The truth is probably that Brexit provided an insurmountable opportunity for both country's driver licensing agencies to do what they do best.

Can any blame be attached to your friend for not starting the renewal process as early as he could?

 

[snowhead]

Can any blame be attached to your friend for not starting the renewal process as early as he could?

He first applied over 2 years ago when the U.K Gov suggested it would be neccessary, so no, not for want of trying.
The easiest option would be to take a French driving test , but it's all done in French and he doesn't think he's fluent enough, despite being there on and off for over 20 years.
Just to add in the U.K you can only take the test in English, or Welsh in Wales.

 

[Mike Johnson]

In these wonderfully enlightened times I believe the driving test can be take in any language you want with the help of an interpreter all to do with human rights and equality.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I've got an English friend who's lived in France for 15 years, he was 70 around 2 weeks ago and has now lost his licence and is unable to drive.
He blames Brexit, I blame the French for c*cking up the Uk to French licence exchange process.

He should blame himself, the laws in both countries are quite clear.

 

[Soi disant]

Legal clarity does nothing to stop administrative lethargy.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Legal clarity does nothing to stop administrative lethargy.

How long did it take you to think that up, well I suppose it is April fools day.

 

[Soi disant]

Don't you call me April!

 

[snowhead]

He should blame himself, the laws in both countries are quite clear.

Yes they are quite clear.

French law doesn't allow exchange of U.K driving licences from the start of 2021
U.K law doesn't allow renewal of a U.K licence unless you are permanently resident in the U.K

So if you become 70 while permanently resident in France from Jan 2021 you're up the creek without a driving licence.

 

[brianmoooore]

There was nothing about that on the side of the bus.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Hmm permanently residence in France for 15years and has not taken up residency in the country he has adopted, he also did not see that coming with the advent of the UK leaving the EU? been driving on a UK licence all of that time ? Has he also got a UK registered car?