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If you apply C3's for plastic Cu's, then most EICR' s would need littered with C3's
Where would it end ...
Where would it end ...
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Maybe not, as the issue comes when they are visible-and only within trunking or cable clips. if not , and the ceiling is plasterboard, then they're not liable to premature collapse.Cables in escape routes are not normally visible so would surely be a lim.
Wish there was so much open discussion and debate on whether me ball
If none of you can agree on this one point, how do you agree on the rest of the book
Bang on, SpoonDo not want to discuss your balls..
My post is my personal opinion. I do not do EICR's so it doesn't affect anyone really. Just shocked to think that anyone would even consider giving a CU a C2 just because it's plastic.
It is hardly "going over the top" bringing to the attention of a home owner a potential risk it is more by way of advice it is not as if it is a judgement from the Lord high executioner it is simply sage advice. The fact the risk as perceived by you @Des 56 is miniscule does not detract from the fact that certain professional bodies have deemed it a risk who are in a better position to assess that risk certainly more so than mere personal opinion and subjective conjecture. I see no reason to fly in the face of that and refuse to acknowledge and inform others who can then make their own decision as to how to handle it.Life is full of risk,its good to reduce that risk but lets not go over the top
Just shocked to think that anyone would even consider giving a CU a C2 just because it's plastic.
Have you been at the Dictionary again this morning Tel, all these big words and precise statements?It is hardly "going over the top" bringing to the attention of a home owner a potential risk it is more by way of advice it is not as if it is a judgement from the Lord high executioner it is simply sage advice. The fact the risk as perceived by you @Des 56 is miniscule does not detract from the fact that certain professional bodies have deemed it a risk who are in a better position to assess that risk certainly more so than mere personal opinion and subjective conjecture. I see no reason to fly in the face of that and refuse to acknowledge and inform others who can then make their own decision as to how to handle it.
Sorry about that Tel " will do better next time"pete, you have quoted Vorty's post and replied tome. you really must stop using wine bottle bottoms and chicken wire for glasses. .
so, a plastic CU that's properly installed gets a C3 code. Customer then decides to have it replaced with a metal CU.This is done by a wet-behind-the -ears Electrical Trainee, with loose terminations, ropey cable dressing, and an indecipherable EIC. and you call that an improvement???
Installations by incompetent persons is a different matter to coding a plastic CU. I usually advise customers to fireproof the stairs themselves rather than change the CU. I often see understairs packed to the gunnels with property. And the wooden understairs is exposed looking like it would go up like a tinder box. Remember that a C3 is not compulsory it is advisory, surely there is no harm in advising where there is a risk?This is done by a wet-behind-the -ears Electrical Trainee, with loose terminations, ropey cable dressing, and an indecipherable EIC. and you call that an improvement???
My post is my personal opinion. I do not do EICR's so it doesn't affect anyone really. Just shocked to think that anyone would even consider giving a CU a C2 just because it's plastic.
You forgot.... Then come January all the circuits going into the CU get a C3 for not having any AFDD's
I would doubt that. I believe they are only coming in as advisory in January. Not got my blue book yet though so correct me if wrong.You forgot.... Then come January all the circuits going into the CU get a C3 for not having any AFDD's
What does the 18th say about AFDD's?
Just to ease your mind, the BPG only recommends a C3 for combustible boards situated in sole escape routes, and a no code if not. I personally think that is quite sensible guidance.
Hoorah, a sensible reply and one I echoThese Guides can lead to narrow minded thinking as opposed to using your knowledge to judge each scenario on its own merits.
Wait, we’re supposed to get qualified before we can give judgmental opinions!Wish there was so much open discussion and debate on whether me ball joint on me van was a pass or a fail, on its mot last time out.
If none of you can agree on this one point, how do you agree on the rest of the book?
Incidentally, once you've obtained an EICR course or training, at what point can you start giving your competent judgmental opinions; straight away, few months experience or when you're old & crusty like Westwood, no offence Westy.
It is hardly "going over the top" bringing to the attention of a home owner a potential risk it is more by way of advice it is not as if it is a judgement from the Lord high executioner it is simply sage advice. The fact the risk as perceived by you @Des 56 is miniscule does not detract from the fact that certain professional bodies have deemed it a risk who are in a better position to assess that risk certainly more so than mere personal opinion and subjective conjecture. I see no reason to fly in the face of that and refuse to acknowledge and inform others who can then make their own decision as to how to handle it.
What makes me laugh is there are 100s of 1000s of Plastic DBs all over the country which they recommended to us in the last regs to fit, dual RCDs or boards with seperate RCBOs which was an improvement from the original DBs they used to recommend us to fit, However all of a sudden it is a C2 or C3 PMSL, How can they say this? it is about money and nothing else, the manufacturers fund the IET and are also directors on the board, they want to make some cash lol, it is like redesigning a car every 10 years and getting more sales, the whole thing stinks of Bullsh$te
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