Fixing a miss-drilled beam

[SteveBz]

I'm building a flat-roof extension on my house and I've got a guy helping me. Sadly he's miss-drilled the holes in the joists right next to the wall (within 70 mm) instead of .25 - .4 of the beam length. Actually, it looks very nice, but not in line with BRs. If we move the wiring (and pipes actually) to be in line with BR, how should I patch the holes? Can I put a steel plate over them? What to do.

Steve.

 

[SteveBz]

what size holes? if only 20mm or 25mm, i'd not bother doing anything. it' s not as if the joists were load bearing.

Max 25mm for 22mm water pipe.

 

[SteveBz]

Why isn't it load bearing ?

It's a flat roof, but I don't know if that is classified as load-bearing or not.

 

[sean_ork]

It's a flat roof, but I don't know if that is classified as load-bearing or not.

It is .....

 

[PEG]

Depending on the size and placement of holes,a clued up BC inspector,may well not require you to do anything.

Those advocating the bolting of plates,need to know more about the dynamics,of how a beam functions. You may make things worse,by drilling yet more holes,for bolts...

 

[Squid]

Who did the calculations for the beam?

 

[telectrix]

Beam me up, Scottie.

 

[Midwest]

Get the plasterboard up quick, before the BI comes round

 

[sparksburnout]

Get the plasterboard up quick, before the BI comes round

That's by far the most sensible advice yet given. It's just a few bloody holes for goodness sake. How the hell can a flat roof be properly load bearing, is someone going to put an outdoor Jacuzzi on it? You could have had the job done by now.....

 

[Squid]

That's by far the most sensible advice yet given. It's just a few bloody holes for goodness sake. How the hell can a flat roof be properly load bearing, is someone going to put an outdoor Jacuzzi on it? You could have had the job done by now.....

If you are going to do job properly the do it properly, no bodges allowed.

Maybe your customers should check on the amount of expanding foam and grip fill that you use ;o))))))

 

[Midwest]

If you are going to do job properly the do it properly, no bodges allowed.

Maybe your customers should check on the amount of expanding foam and grip fill that you use ;o))))))

You've never go to bed at night, without brushing your teeth?

 

[Squid]

You've never go to bed at night, without brushing your teeth?

 

[Squid]

I am perfect........

 

[andyb]

Just use the holes you've drilled, they're in the wrong place that's all. Why weaken the joists further by drilling more?

 

[sparksburnout]

If you are going to do job properly the do it properly, no bodges allowed.

Maybe your customers should check on the amount of expanding foam and grip fill that you use ;o))))))

Did I say I had done similar? I would have done the job properly in the first place, but if some fella without a "Part P" qually (joke) has gone and dared to drill a wee hole out of place, I would't fanny about with wooden pegs and sister rafters, complete waste of time. Have you seen the holes your average plumber puts through? never heard of a house falling down because of a few holes here and there, more PC BC non-sense.

 

[Squid]

Did I say I had done similar? I would have done the job properly in the first place, but if some fella without a "Part P" qually (joke) has gone and dared to drill a wee hole out of place, I would't fanny about with wooden pegs and sister rafters, complete waste of time. Have you seen the holes your average plumber puts through? never heard of a house falling down because of a few holes here and there, more PC BC non-sense.

Its all about liability, "if" something happens in the future then guaranteed someone somewhere will try to weasel there way out of paying for it or being screwed over for their decisions in allowing it.

Its like the 18th ed, most of its cack but you lot will adhere to it as it Electrical God's bible and if you don't you can and will be sued.

 

[sparksburnout]

This forum is full of people getting their knickers in a knot over being sued, setting houses on fire, being put in prison, electrocuting others and who know's what else for committing all sorts of minor misdemeanours, including this one. How many have you ever known get sued/prosecuted/imprisoned or anything else for such? It's plain common sense, a few miss-positioned holes in a non-load bearing component like a flat roof rafter or even a joist are not going to make a jot of difference and are completely wasting your time, or even make it worse, to try. Just stick the boards up and crack on!

 

[Squid]

This forum is full of people getting their knickers in a knot over being sued, setting houses on fire, being put in prison, electrocuting others and who know's what else for committing all sorts of minor misdemeanours, including this one. How many have you ever known get sued/prosecuted/imprisoned or anything else for such? It's plain common sense, a few miss-positioned holes in a non-load bearing component like a flat roof rafter or even a joist are not going to make a jot of difference and are completely wasting your time, or even make it worse, to try. Just stick the boards up and crack on!

Did you do the cladding on the Grenfell Tower BTW?

 

[sparksburnout]

Did you do the cladding on the Grenfell Tower BTW?

Well I didn't know it wasn't fireproof did I? At least the no-nails helpd up for a decent length of time. On a serious note, I bet no-one gets to go to clink for that either.

 

[pirate]

Rules and regs...all very well.
Commonsense...but that requires some idea of what is required for safety.
I don't care about splitting hairs, just putting a good job together...
However, putting a hole through a joist in the "wrong" place isn't a problem...if you realise what kind of joist you are tackling.
Honestly, common sense wins...if you have a brain.

 

[PEG]

...All that is required,for evil to prevail,is that good BC inspectors,do nothing...