In defence of the short course trainee

[malcolmsanford]

I think a lot of this also is a generation thing, when it comes down perhaps a few of us seemingly look to be aggressive or un-helpful, when in reality it isn't.

Yesterday a member who is very respected posted a question and it was so off the wall, he himself came back on and admitted after reading it, it made little sense, and a few of the lads gave him the leg pull about it, but he took it as it was meant to be.

The forum as really taken over from the tea hut in many respects, you discuss things, ask questions, and if you ask a silly one you tend to get lumps shot off you, but in most cases everyone is there to help. Of course you will get, even in the tea hut someone that takes the banter to far, or is even an a hole, but like tea huts, they are soon put in their place and generally ignored.

I hope anyone reading our forum, and after all it is our forum, do not shirk back from asking anything, you may get your legged pulled by a few of us, but I can guarantee from the majority of us you will get a straight and positive answer, even if it isn't what you hoped for.

 

[DNS1]

Good comparison, but the obvious difference is that if you say something stupid to a couple of guys in the tea hut, you've got a couple of guys taking the mickey, whereas on here you've got every member and his dog seeing what you've said!

Despite all the leg pulling on here, I'm sometimes amazed at how patient the "serious" members are when it comes to stupid questions by the likes of trainees like me, pro sparks having a blonde moment and people who only sign up cos "the kitchen lights have gone mate, when i stuck a neon screwdriver in the hole nothing happened".

 

[Breaker]

It wasn't a 5 week course for me. It was two years of studying, 5 practicals and exam visits, lots of unpaid work experience. As well as a serious investment of a lot of money.

It's easy to dismiss it as just 5 weeks. Since then I have met loads of spark's that have done apprenticeships. Most of them admit that they never learnt anything because they were more interested in women when they were apprentices and failed almost every exam they took.

And where am I now? Applying for an £8 an hour job wiring modular toilets for people to urinate in. Yeah, so get the idea of £30K a year out of your heads because you have to still start at the very bottom.

 

[Engineer54]

As far as i'm concerned, as far as the title of this thread goes, ...There is no defence for electrical trainee's or the new 17 day whizz kidz, End Of!!

 

[Breaker]

No such thing as a 5 week wonder. He only exists in your head.

If anyone has told you that they did a five week course and walked into a job as a sparky then they are bull****ting you.

Don't be so gullible.

 

[ipf]

No such thing as a 5 week wonder. He only exists in your head.

If only......................

I see it's nearly 2 years since this particular old chestnut last fell from the tree. Things will never change....for the better, that is.

 

[Engineer54]

No such thing as a 5 week wonder. He only exists in your head.

If anyone has told you that they did a five week course and walked into a job as a sparky then they are bull****ting you.

Don't be so gullible.

I think you're the gullible one!! They don't get employed by companies, they start their own one man band companies, and with the shameful blessing of all the scheme providers!!


Jesus,...do you walk around with your eyes closed and with ear plugs permanently stuck in your ears or what?? lol!!

 

[Breaker]

This reminds me of the old boy's complaining when I started my first job over 30 years ago. Complaining that it aint done properly anymore and all the youngsters aint any good.

Same old, same old.

Anyone who starts out as a one man band even after an apprenticeship is an idiot, I wouldn't worry about it. Just think of the money you will make putting their work right.

But in the meantime don't tar them all with the same brush. After all a lot of them come from technological backgrounds anyway. Some of them are taking a step down to be an electrician.

 

[MDJ]

. Some of them are taking a step down to be an electrician.

Name 2 Then?

 

[Breaker]

Joe Bloggs and Fred Smith..........