Minor Works

[keiron2013]

Lmaoo, some ov u r , on bout my age and tha, engineers 54 is the worst, you stick to the lightin and ring mains ill do the central heating,

 

[ste77]

its a relevant point, how can you be experienced/competent at electrics when youve only observed an electrician, you need to be aware of why we carry out tests, what readings are accceptable and why they differ with different protective devices, its best to stick to what you know best til youve gained the relevant qualifications instead of trying to earn a few quick extra pounds.

 

[keiron2013]

Keiron, are you serious?

I've just read that whole thread and nobody was having a bitch fit - and if you think they were, you should read some of the other threads on here...come back in 2014 when david cockburn re-registers if you want to see a proper bitch fit.

People were just giving you plain and simple advice. You need to undertake the 2382, 2394 & 2395 aswell as a part-p course / register with a scheme. This will prove your competent to sign off your own work.

Yes, as others have mentioned you can sign off a MWC now if you really want - but if anyone gets hurt you'll definitley go to prison because you wont be able to prove your competent to undertake the work you've done.

Thanks mark,
You have give me exactly what I asked for, most of the goin on bout BS, and my age, how can I be able to wire?, most experianced people are worse than inexperiance, inexperiance people are cautious in what they are doing

 

[markc123]

you're welcome.

 

[markc123]

Thanks mark,
You have give me exactly what I asked for, most of the goin on bout BS, and my age, how can I be able to wire?, most experianced people are worse than inexperiance, inexperiance people are cautious in what they are doing

I can't say i agree with how you've completley conducted yourself in this thread, and regardless of what else has been said, as i can't really be arsed to get involved in 'bitch fits' at the time being...

That is completley true, when i was learning the trade i used to notice my dad work live all the time, and sometimes get a little belt.

Now, as im older the times have changed and at one point i used to make sure everything is dead....replacing a FCU now or w.e. i'll just do live.

The more experienced do get hurt more i'll agree, but thats their own fault.

But, having said that...Experience is knowledge in this trade im afraid.

 

[keiron2013]

All I wanted to knw if I need to be qualified? Yes or No, and if so what course do I need to undertake, not all the bull****. Aswell I didn't knw if I was coming or going, thanks to mark I nw knw what I need to do to undertake the tests,

 

[Octopus]

All I wanted to knw if I need to be qualified? Yes or No, and if so what course do I need to undertake, not all the bull****. Aswell I didn't knw if I was coming or going, thanks to mark I nw knw what I need to do to undertake the tests,

So are you simply ignoring my posts #22 and #26?????

You dad, should do the right thing and take on a competent sparky and see how it goes. He's the boss!

 

[keiron2013]

its a relevant point, how can you be experienced/competent at electrics when youve only observed an electrician, you need to be aware of why we carry out tests, what readings are accceptable and why they differ with different protective devices, its best to stick to what you know best til youve gained the relevant qualifications instead of trying to earn a few quick extra pounds.

I can't say i agree with how you've completley conducted yourself in this thread, and regardless of what else has been said, as i can't really be arsed to get involved in 'bitch fits' at the time being...

That is completley true, when i was learning the trade i used to notice my dad work live all the time, and sometimes get a little belt.

Now, as im older the times have changed and at one point i used to make sure everything is dead....replacing a FCU now or w.e. i'll just do live.

The more experienced do get hurt more i'll agree, but thats their own fault.

But, having said that...Experience is knowledge in this trade im afraid.

I agree with that mark, I'm gettin slated because I've asked do I need to be qualified to do the test, but in order to gain experiance u need hands on aswell as knowledge no good sat in collage learnin out of a book need the onsite to get true experiance

 

[Andy78]

All I wanted to knw if I need to be qualified? Yes or No, and if so what course do I need to undertake, not all the bull****. Aswell I didn't knw if I was coming or going, thanks to mark I nw knw what I need to do to undertake the tests,

You got the precise answer to your question in the second reply on this thread.

 

[keiron2013]

its a relevant point, how can you be experienced/competent at electrics when youve only observed an electrician, you need to be aware of why we carry out tests, what readings are accceptable and why they differ with different protective devices, its best to stick to what you know best til youve gained the relevant qualifications instead of trying to earn a few quick extra pounds.

I can't say i agree with how you've completley conducted yourself in this thread, and regardless of what else has been said, as i can't really be arsed to get involved in 'bitch fits' at the time being...

That is completley true, when i was learning the trade i used to notice my dad work live all the time, and sometimes get a little belt.

Now, as im older the times have changed and at one point i used to make sure everything is dead....replacing a FCU now or w.e. i'll just do live.

The more experienced do get hurt more i'll agree, but thats their own fault.

But, having said that...Experience is knowledge in this trade im afraid.

So are you simply ignoring my posts #22 and #26?????

You dad, should do the right thing and take on a competent sparky and see how it goes. He's the boss!

Its all down to giving a better service, and we don't get paid unless we hav e a minor works, will help with cashflow

 

[Octopus]

Its all down to giving a better service, and we don't get paid unless we hav e a minor works, will help with cashflow

So you are ignoring my posts then.

How do you issue certs now?

The last Gas Safe man's work I looked at had installed a spur, which was off a spur, which was off a spur, off a ring on a 32A MCB

 

[keiron2013]

its a relevant point, how can you be experienced/competent at electrics when youve only observed an electrician, you need to be aware of why we carry out tests, what readings are accceptable and why they differ with different protective devices, its best to stick to what you know best til youve gained the relevant qualifications instead of trying to earn a few quick extra pounds.

I can't say i agree with how you've completley conducted yourself in this thread, and regardless of what else has been said, as i can't really be arsed to get involved in 'bitch fits' at the time being...

That is completley true, when i was learning the trade i used to notice my dad work live all the time, and sometimes get a little belt.

Now, as im older the times have changed and at one point i used to make sure everything is dead....replacing a FCU now or w.e. i'll just do live.

The more experienced do get hurt more i'll agree, but thats their own fault.

But, having said that...Experience is knowledge in this trade im afraid.

So are you simply ignoring my posts #22 and #26?????

You dad, should do the right thing and take on a competent sparky and see how it goes. He's the boss!

So you are ignoring my posts then.

How do you issue certs now?

The last Gas Safe man's work I looked at had installed a spur, which was off a spur, which was off a spur, off a ring on a 32A MCB

We are not installing new spurs, we are changin the fronts from a water heater which is on it own breaker to a switch fuse spur or unswitch sock

 

[Octopus]

We are not installing new spurs, we are changin the fronts from a water heater which is on it own breaker to a switch fuse spur or unswitch sock

Sooner or later you WILL need to install a new circuit or make changes in a kitchen so Part P will be a requirement. and then theres bonding, RCD protection etc, etc.

 

[Andy78]

we don't get paid unless we hav e a minor works, will help with cashflow

We are not installing new spurs, we are changin the fronts from a water heater which is on it own breaker to a switch fuse spur or unswitch sock

Not making a lot of sense there.

 

[keiron2013]

its a relevant point, how can you be experienced/competent at electrics when youve only observed an electrician, you need to be aware of why we carry out tests, what readings are accceptable and why they differ with different protective devices, its best to stick to what you know best til youve gained the relevant qualifications instead of trying to earn a few quick extra pounds.

I can't say i agree with how you've completley conducted yourself in this thread, and regardless of what else has been said, as i can't really be arsed to get involved in 'bitch fits' at the time being...

That is completley true, when i was learning the trade i used to notice my dad work live all the time, and sometimes get a little belt.

Now, as im older the times have changed and at one point i used to make sure everything is dead....replacing a FCU now or w.e. i'll just do live.

The more experienced do get hurt more i'll agree, but thats their own fault.

But, having said that...Experience is knowledge in this trade im afraid.

So are you simply ignoring my posts #22 and #26?????

You dad, should do the right thing and take on a competent sparky and see how it goes. He's the boss!

No we are installing boiler if we every did do a kitchen we would get a spark in to do the works

 

[keiron2013]

its a relevant point, how can you be experienced/competent at electrics when youve only observed an electrician, you need to be aware of why we carry out tests, what readings are accceptable and why they differ with different protective devices, its best to stick to what you know best til youve gained the relevant qualifications instead of trying to earn a few quick extra pounds.

I can't say i agree with how you've completley conducted yourself in this thread, and regardless of what else has been said, as i can't really be arsed to get involved in 'bitch fits' at the time being...

That is completley true, when i was learning the trade i used to notice my dad work live all the time, and sometimes get a little belt.

Now, as im older the times have changed and at one point i used to make sure everything is dead....replacing a FCU now or w.e. i'll just do live.

The more experienced do get hurt more i'll agree, but thats their own fault.

But, having said that...Experience is knowledge in this trade im afraid.

So are you simply ignoring my posts #22 and #26?????

You dad, should do the right thing and take on a competent sparky and see how it goes. He's the boss!

Ok we are not running supplys just changin the front, which is not notifiable works.

 

[Engineer54]

Lmaoo, some ov u r , on bout my age and tha, engineers 54 is the worst, you stick to the lightin and ring mains ill do the central heating,

Spoken by a true immature kid!!! Ignorance is bliss at your age!!

As the part Pee system has been in place for several years now, how come your father and brother haven't taken the necessary electrical courses?? Come to that, any of these 7 gas fitters your father employs??

Better still get some trusted qualified electricians on a call retainer basis, or employ one of them, if you have that much work on....

 

[keiron2013]

its a relevant point, how can you be experienced/competent at electrics when youve only observed an electrician, you need to be aware of why we carry out tests, what readings are accceptable and why they differ with different protective devices, its best to stick to what you know best til youve gained the relevant qualifications instead of trying to earn a few quick extra pounds.

I can't say i agree with how you've completley conducted yourself in this thread, and regardless of what else has been said, as i can't really be arsed to get involved in 'bitch fits' at the time being...

That is completley true, when i was learning the trade i used to notice my dad work live all the time, and sometimes get a little belt.

Now, as im older the times have changed and at one point i used to make sure everything is dead....replacing a FCU now or w.e. i'll just do live.

The more experienced do get hurt more i'll agree, but thats their own fault.

But, having said that...Experience is knowledge in this trade im afraid.

So are you simply ignoring my posts #22 and #26?????

You dad, should do the right thing and take on a competent sparky and see how it goes. He's the boss!

Spoken by a true immature kid!!! Ignorance is bliss at your age!!

As the part Pee system has been in place for several years now, how come your father and brother haven't taken the necessary electrical courses?? Come to that, any of these 7 gas fitters your father employs??

Better still get some trusted qualified electricians on a call retainer basis, or employ one of them, if you have that much work on....

Yeah my old man got his part p and is niceic approved but due to being busy we use sparkys at the moment but is causing problems with efffiency, we are always look to produce a better and more efficent service within our company, donno bout u but u sound like that don't matter to u?