Increase mcb capacity. Notifiable?

[Plonker 3]

Will the DB be upgraded in the future, it's sitting there perfectly fine right now. Also a new DB is going to cost about £300 more than a stand alone unit, how would you feel if you room your car to the garage for new brakes and they said oh while we are at it we will also change your radiator because it will need doing one day?

 

[Plonker 3]

A helpful response might garner a helpful reply. The part p document isn't clear on MCB upgrades and circuit arrangement changes. Thought I'd seek wisdom on here.

Well if it doesn't say anything the it doesn't need notifying does it?

 

[Meggerman]

Will the DB be upgraded in the future, it's sitting there perfectly fine right now. Also a new DB is going to cost about £300 more than a stand alone unit, how would you feel if you room your car to the garage for new brakes and they said oh while we are at it we will also change your radiator because it will need doing one day?

I don't get why you lot cannot get your head around business. I'm not ****ing around to accommodate there outdated crap. I will offer to upgrade whenever the opportunity arises. SSE and chums do it everyday. I am a business and business is good. Wise up.

 

[Plonker 3]

Yes your business is to ensure that the customer gets looked after not have unnecessary work carried out, by all means explain the advantages and let the customer decide but to say it needs doing is just the work of a scammer.

 

[Meggerman]

Yes your business is to ensure that the customer gets looked after not have unnecessary work carried out, by all means explain the advantages and let the customer decide but to say it needs doing is just the work of a scammer.

I take pride in my work and everything is to regulations. I quote in a competitive market place and know my business. I always give prices before which are agreed before work commences. A scammer does work and then presents an inflated bill.

 

[JC94]

Maybe it was downrated due to a high Zs result? Unlikely by the sounds of things, Still, if there's a break in the r1 check it out, but that might be why it may have been changed from 32A to 20? As you said, you were in a rush and may not have had time to test etc (sorry haven't read the whole thread, bit late)

 

[spynage]

Maybe it was downrated due to a high Zs result? Unlikely by the sounds of things, Still, if there's a break in the r1 check it out, but that might be why it may have been changed from 32A to 20? As you said, you were in a rush and may not have had time to test etc (sorry haven't read the whole thread, bit late)

Yes. R1 was disconnected. Didn't check R2 but she has a quote for all outcomes inc a new section of wiring or reconnecting what's there. I saw the 20amp though and made an assumption. The customer also told me the previous owner had run out of money when renovating the property, so there was a clue!

 

[JC94]

Oh right it's a 3036 board? so it wouldn't have been a 32 (if it was changed) it would have been 30, check the Zs measurement and see if that's why it was changed, should be less than... about 1.14 for 3036 30amp fuses?

 

[spynage]

Oh right it's a 3036 board? so it wouldn't have been a 32 (if it was changed) it would have been 30, check the Zs measurement and see if that's why it was changed

yes 30 sorry. I think she would want the new CU as she's keen on selling the place. I'll do the Zs of course but yeah bear in mind the disconnection time for the MCB!

 

[davesparks]

I don't get why you lot cannot get your head around business. I'm not ****ing around to accommodate there outdated crap. I will offer to upgrade whenever the opportunity arises. SSE and chums do it everyday. I am a business and business is good. Wise up.

Yes it is good practice to advise the customer as to the advantages of upgrading the installation, but you also have to make them aware that there is no requirement to do it and if the installation is in good condition then it is not necessary, just purely advisable.

 

[Octopus]

yes 30 sorry. I think she would want the new CU as she's keen on selling the place. I'll do the Zs of course but yeah bear in mind the disconnection time for the MCB!

This is astonishing. You've admitted that you "think" there is an issue, you have admitted that you haven't tested the circuit, yet you pursue the line of changing the MCB and the CU.

Please, please, please, arrange to visit the client and fully test the circuit - like you WOULD HAVE TO DO on a board change.

Then post the ACTUAL situation.

That said are you a scheme member?

 

[tony mc]

Looks like NIC from previous posts.

Is it me yet another post with half cocked information from op!

Posts 9 & 12 you were given the answer IMO

 

[camerabloke]

Dunno if this has been mentioned. But are you actually chasing a ring that isn't a ring? 2 cables in a mcb don't mean it's definitely a ring. You've tested r1 and no continuity so I could be 2 radials. You need to do more testing

 

[Risteard]

I talk them round and upgrade ... 1361 boards whenever I see them in houses.

What is wrong with cartridge fuses? They have a higher breaking capacity than circuit breakers to BS EN 60898. I have them in my house and no intention of changing them!

 

[Iddy]

To the OP no offence meant at all.. Ive read through the posts and all the experianced members have answered all your questions. Just take a step with a fresh mind and take on the good information / advice and take it from there with the client.

 

[7029 dave]

As ^^^^ nothing more to be said.

 

[Meggerman]

Dunno if this has been mentioned. But are you actually chasing a ring that isn't a ring? 2 cables in a mcb don't mean it's definitely a ring. You've tested r1 and no continuity so I could be 2 radials. You need to do more testing

It has been mentioned.

 

[Meggerman]

What is wrong with cartridge fuses? They have a higher breaking capacity than circuit breakers to BS EN 60898. I have them in my house and no intention of changing them!

They may have higher breaking capacity, but as MCB's breaking capacities is at least 6KA it is not a problem is it. I was really referring to wylex 3036 / 1361 type as there would be no RCD present (unless add on or an upfront... which is crap either way)

 

[GMES]

Good old JRC could have rewired the whole house by the time this get's resolved!

 

[Meggerman]

Good old JRC could have rewired the whole house by the time this get's resolved!

I miss that guy. I wonder if he ever found that fault?