Install an electric shower in bungalow - price range

[electricnovice]

Hello - member of the public here again, so please be nice this time :smartass:

I can appreciate people wont want to give out quotes on a public site, but if doable I'd appreciate a 'price range' if that's ok.

For an electrician installing an electric shower in my Mum's bungalow bathroom, so that when quotes come to her she knows they are at least in the right ball-park area. Job outline is -

Supply and install 10.5kw Triton electric shower.
10mm cable, 40amp MCB.
Plumbing-pipework, isolator and connectors.
Electrical installation certificate.
Sundries and labour.
(quote without the VAT)

Water to the shower to feed off from a cold water pipe which spurs off from an electrically heated water tank unit.

Thank you. Anyone's help is really appreciated.

SD (daughter) (Midlands)

 

[joehat]

notifying to you local building control.this is usually done throuh niceic,elecsa,napit, etc. if the sparks is a member of one of these scams. £550 seems a bit steep, IMO.

Steep if not supplying the shower good if they are, and it's a good quality shower

 

[davesparks]

Steep if not supplying the shower good if they are, and it's a good quality shower

The op said its a triton shower so there is no chance of it being good quality!

 

[joehat]

The op said its a triton shower so there is no chance of it being good quality!

Okay then high end. I generally charge. a day £240 plus £100-150 dependant on what was needed in materials and parts Ect if they want a basic £100 shower 8.5 kW

But as said without exact details it will make a massive difference, like hacking to add a separate cu with add on nearly £100 a short run 7-8m compared to a 15 m run can make £40 difference but to having to buy a 25m cable Ect ext

 

[Risteard]

The electrician will also decide on the sizing and co-ordination of the cable and MCB and won't need you to specify that for them.

Indeed, and a 40A protective device isn't appropriate for a shower which pulls 45.65A anyway (or 43.75A if based on an open circuit voltage of 240V instead of the 230V harmonised voltage).

 

[davesparks]

Indeed, and a 40A protective device isn't appropriate for a shower which pulls 45.65A anyway (or 43.75A if based on an open circuit voltage of 240V instead of the 230V harmonised voltage).

Without seeing the rating plate for the shower it cannot be said for certain but I've never yet seen one which has its main power rating at 230V. Manufacturers didn't bother to go to the trouble of changing their manufacturing process when the voltage change supposedly happened, they just changed the printing on the stickers to include the 230V power rating as well as the 240V one (same for electric heaters and all sorts of other things)
Bottom line is that a 10.5kW shower is almost definitely going to be 10.5kW at 240V (9.6kW at 230V)

 

[davesparks]

Okay then high end. I generally charge. a day £240 plus £100-150 dependant on what was needed in materials and parts Ect if they want a basic £100 shower 8.5 kW

But as said without exact details it will make a massive difference, like hacking to add a separate cu with add on nearly £100 a short run 7-8m compared to a 15 m run can make £40 difference but to having to buy a 25m cable Ect ext

You've missed my point I think, triton electric showers are low end crap which leak like a sieve after a couple of years.

Why would you buy 25m of cable when you need 15m? Just buy 15m or else do what most people do and buy a drum

 

[Risteard]

Bottom line is that a 10.5kW shower is almost definitely going to be 10.5kW at 240V (9.6kW at 230V)

I agree, but as I said this gives 43.75A, so the specification of a 40A protective device isn't correct.

 

[davesparks]

Okay then high end. I generally charge. a day £240 plus £100-150 dependant on what was needed in materials and parts Ect if they want a basic £100 shower 8.5 kW

But as said without exact details it will make a massive difference, like hacking to add a separate cu with add on nearly £100 a short run 7-8m compared to a 15 m run can make £40 difference but to having to buy a 25m cable Ect ext

You've missed my point I think, triton electric showers are low end crap which leak like a sieve after a couple of years.

Why would you buy 25m of cable when you need 15m? Just buy 15m or else do what most people do and buy a drum

 

[Geordie Spark]

or the grown up version:

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After seeing that I'm off for a shower myself - a cold one!! :leaving:

 

[shanky887614]

You've missed my point I think, triton electric showers are low end crap which leak like a sieve after a couple of years.

Why would you buy 25m of cable when you need 15m? Just buy 15m or else do what most people do and buy a drum

thats the size screwfix sell it in XD definitely a diy'er

 

[Spoon]

You've missed my point I think, triton electric showers are low end crap which leak like a sieve after a couple of years.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Our last shower was a Triton (under £100) It lasted about 10 years. Our new one is also a Triton.

 

[sparksburnout]

or the grown up version:

View attachment 31304

Bloody hell I hope Pete's not looking at this in his condition.

 

[joehat]

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Our last shower was a Triton (under £100) It lasted about 10 years. Our new one is also a Triton.

Agree, there not as and as people make out, I install them and had not one issue, about 10 in the last year alone and not one issue now or previous install. I install to customer budget within reason

 

[Amp David]

Polos working for nowt then!

OP said supply and install the triton shower. And you could do this for 350?

Id be pricing a day out to this sort of job, with the place left clean and tidy

 

[uksparks]

Electricnovice, if you want a quote from me, you are not far and I cover your area, so if you would like me to come and look, I can.

 

[sparksburnout]

thats the size screwfix sell it in XD definitely a diy'er

So if you buy anything from screwfix then you are a DIY'er? Bit of an odd statement?

 

[sparksburnout]

Polos working for nowt then!

OP said supply and install the triton shower. And you could do this for 350?

Id be pricing a day out to this sort of job, with the place left clean and tidy

I agree, there is no way most shower installs will be done in that time, not the ones I get anyway, you can spend 2 hours ***ng about with the plumbing if you are unlucky. I think this thread is ridiculous and also a bit dangerous bearing in mind it is on view to the public. There is no way anyone can say how much it will cost without seeing the job so offering up prices out of thin air is crazy.

 

[shanky887614]

So if you buy anything from screwfix then you are a DIY'er? Bit of an odd statement?

if they buy 25m of 6/10mm and they only need 15m then yes because everyone else would go to a wholesalers or somewhere that sells by the m

 

[sparksburnout]

if they buy 25m of 6/10mm and they only need 15m then yes because everyone else would go to a wholesalers or somewhere that sells by the m

Ah I see what you mean, not sure who was buying 25M but yeah obviously someone who does not use much of it. Screwfix prices for cable is high though.

 

[joehat]

Ah I see what you mean, not sure who was buying 25M but yeah obviously someone who does not use much of it. Screwfix prices for cable is high though.

Where I buy 10mm it's like £55-60 for 15m so £75 for 25m I get, what do you guys pay for 15m? And so they to what you want?

 

[joehat]

So if you buy anything from screwfix then you are a DIY'er? Bit of an odd statement?

How would you know!!!

 

[shanky887614]

Where I buy 10mm it's like £55-60 for 15m so £75 for 25m I get, what do you guys pay for 15m? And so they to what you want?

screwfix

10mm twin x10m = 27.55
25m = £60 -72incvat

your getting shafted there mate

 

[baldsparkies]

Whats wrong with you people £550 steep ??? I would say about a grand provided customer supplies the shower.
You have to remember an honest sparks has to run a van as well as his car.
After all you won't see me fitting a roof rack to my Ferrari anytime soon.
And the wife would never expect me to use her Range Rover Vogue when she has the kids to pick up from school.
Honestly, what planet are you lot on :ihih:

 

[uksparks]

So if you buy anything from screwfix then you are a DIY'er? Bit of an odd statement?

Mid you said tool station I'd say you are a diyer

 

[joehat]

Mid you said tool station I'd say you are a diyer

Agree, but what do people pay at their wholesaler for 25m?

 

[davesparks]

Agree, but what do people pay at their wholesaler for 25m?

I think a 50m drum is around £80 at the moment.

 

[shanky887614]

drums tend to come in 50,100 or 500m drums depending on cable or in cut lengths

 

[Octopus]

Agree, but what do people pay at their wholesaler for 25m?

No decent spark would buy 25 meters!

 

[davesparks]

No decent spark would buy 25 meters!

Good job I'm not decent then cos I'll buy 25 if that's what I need

 

[telectrix]

why buy 100m, use 20m, then have 80m in back of van for a month for any scumbag to nick?