remedial work after an EICR was carried out on a residential property

[leep82]

Today i have been carrying out some remedial work after an EICR was carried out on a residential property. Aswell as the list of remedial works to be carried out i also had draft copies of the EICR which was carried out in November of last year.

When i started to read through the list of observations, which were carried out by another engineer, there were a large number of C1 and C2 items. Now the way i understood it and please tell me if im wrong is that any C1 observations have to be made safe at the time of discovery even if just a temporary fix. The way i had it explained to me was that imagine a doctor walking past someone in the street who had collapsed. Point being they wouldnt as they still have a duty of care to that profession, just as i do as an electrician if i see somthing that is dangerous. Reason i ask is that obviously the initial EICR was done 4 months ago.

Im still very much gaining experience when it comes to EICR so it was interesting to read through some of the observations made. Another one which caught my eye was the lack of isolation points ( key switches ) for the emergency lighting, this was given a C2. As part of the remedial work this is somthing else we are attending to although i think the code may be a little harsh? Would a C3 have been more appropriate in this instant?

 

[Anthony_wayne]

Please put me and my family at risk till I can afford to pay for it to be done safely.

Yeah why not

 

[hightower]

"I've got kids"

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm not doing it.

 

[SparkyChick]

Clearly the customer was a prize plum and the guy gave him a solution which he declined and so the spark did the only thing he could do and from the sounds of it handled it much better than I would have done in similar circumstances.

I think my retort to his 'I've got kids in here' would have been 'well you bloody well should have thought of them before you nearly burnt your house down with your DIY antics!'. And if he refused to pay afterwards, so be it.

I agree with @DPG , definitely take pictures in this kind of scenario to provide a nice cast iron lining to ones work trousers to avoid an a$$ kicking down the line.

The only other thing I thought about is the DNO. Would they be prepared to come and pull the fuse on the guy do you think? But given his apparent propensity for DIY efforts, he'd probably end up with a cut down six inch nail in the fuse carrier and a pile of ash where his house once stood!

 

[buzzlightyear]

well said HT, could not say better then that post 19.its down to the person ordering the work not you.
the 1st tester did the eicr you are their to put eicr wright, ask the customer
would he or her take a car down the road from a garage with out any wheels on .

 

[leep82]

Wow lots of replies since i last checked. All makes for good reading. Currently on the same job doing the remedial work and came across somthing today and would love to know people thoughts. It hasnt been picked up as an observation but could somebody please explain why it wouldnt/shouldnt be given a C1. Basically in a communal lounge area there are several wall lights, all with bayonet type lamp holders although none have lamps fitted, leaving live bare conductors accesible to touch. Obviously fitting a lamp resolves the issue, but the maintenance man on site informs me that they havnt had lamps in them for years and only the ceiling fittings are used in that room.

 

[westward10]

Lamp holders escape the requirements for barriers over live parts, see Reg 416.2.4.
Even fitting lamps will not prevent the fact there is direct access to live parts, you would need to assess the nature of persons living there as to whether enclosed luminaires are more appropriate.