Amendment 2 coming out next year thoughts?

[Gavin John Hyde]

Just been reading an article regards Amendment 2 coming out next year.
The requirements for AFDD is going to create some interesting conversations with customers as they are not cheap. Unless manufacturers get their act together I would be surprised if in 12 months they have stock or are sensibly priced.
Its hard enough to get a consumer unit or RCBO at the moment,

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[telectrix]

well, I'm not buying another overpriced regs. book. anything alters, it will be posted on the forum anyway. now where did i leave my 16th edition?

 

[DaveyD]

I'm hoping it's like metal boards, RCBOs, led downlights, and SPD's and competition wins out.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

well, I'm not buying another overpriced regs. book. anything alters, it will be posted on the forum anyway. now where did i leave my 16th edition?

Tell you what most of the 16th edition boards i come across are installed a lot better than most metal clad amd3 boards!

 

[Dustydazzler]

Tell you what most of the 16th edition boards i come across are installed a lot better than most metal clad amd3 boards!

Love the old plastic 16th ed board, you could neatly butt MT mini trunking up to it really neatly Using the specially designed square cut-outs...

 

[telectrix]

even 13th edition boards were better.

 

[DaveyD]

Yes, except the bendy-wendy plastic MK ones - had one today, blighter.

 

[Pete999]

Yes, except the bendy-wendy plastic MK ones - had one today, blighter.

bendy Wendy, must remember that phrase a classic, bendy wendy?

 

[DaveyD]

bendy Wendy, must remember that phrase a classic, bendy wendy?

LOL Don't you have the two superrods 'bendy-Wendy" and "flexi-Betsy" If I don't ask for them I get handed a yellow or red?

 

[telectrix]

LOL Don't you have the two superrods 'bendy-Wendy" and "flexi-Betsy" If I don't ask for them I get handed a yellow or red?

careful, you'll have the snowflake lesbos/bi's/gender netrals on your case.

 

[Welchyboy1]

Just been reading an article regards Amendment 2 coming out next year.
The requirements for AFDD is going to create some interesting conversations with customers as they are not cheap. Unless manufacturers get their act together I would be surprised if in 12 months they have stock or are sensibly priced.
Its hard enough to get a consumer unit or RCBO at the moment,

All change with Amendment 2, but what does it mean? | NAPIT

JPEL committee member Frank Bertie unravels some of the finer details behind the upcoming changes in Amendment 2 for BS 7671:2018 (2022). Although the Draft for Public Comment (DPC) period ended in De

professional-electrician.com

has this been confirmed now then?

 

[UNG]

When paragraph 3 states

As with all Amendments to BS 7671, it’s only when all of the comments that were received during the DPC period have been reviewed and considered that the final version of BS 7671 Amendment 2 is issued. As such, some of the proposed changes we’re discussing may or may not come into force.

What is the point of the article unless it is to condition us for the inevitable

If all the proposals go through it will do nothing to improve safety as it will price people out of updating / upgrading their electrical installation

 

[SparkySy]

My favorite proposed change along with the AFDD thing is earth of building foundations, who the hell is going to know once the concrete is poured, and how do you check it after for an EICR!

 

[Dustydazzler]

My favorite proposed change along with the AFDD thing is earth of building foundations, who the hell is going to know once the concrete is poured, and how do you check it after for an EICR!

Smash it all up to check ?

 

[Dave OCD]

It'll just give rise to more dodgy DIY electrical bodging and unofficial cash in hand work due to affordability.
But the IET powers that be who also have big interests in manufacturing will want their AFDD development costs back.

 

[Dustydazzler]

do we really need arc fault circuit interceptors ?

really ....

 

[SJD]

DId I read on here not too long ago that in the US, it is not uncommon to fit AFDDs (or whatever they call them over there) on some circuits, but then remove them after sign-off of the work because of nuisance tripping? Or am I imagining this?

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

If the afdd reg comes in then that extra.socket for mrs jones has just become £150 more expensive as you would need to price one of these in. Assuming you can get one. Then if there are issues in the circuits try and find it! Joy of joy you could be there 2 days adding a socket.
I guarantee though the drove by eicr brigade will love this and use it to mark otherwise sound installs as unsatisfactory and immediately tell people they must have afdds. Some landlords are going to be fleeced when this does eventually come in.!
Bit like the changes in amd3 which consumer units. How often do we see on the forum some landlord asking about a cheap EICR being unsatisfactory due to plastic board when everything.else is pretty much okay.

 

[Dustydazzler]

roll up roll up , Im Jumping straight on this gravy train

£2500 for a new afdd board swap

heck we will nearly be as expensive as my local gas fitters charging £175 per hour

 

[Welchyboy1]

When paragraph 3 states

What is the point of the article unless it is to condition us for the inevitable

If all the proposals go through it will do nothing to improve safety as it will price people out of updating / upgrading their electrical installation

Totally correct it will now have the opposite effect
How many more add ons do we have to keep up selling to the customer constantly

I (like a lot of others)do a lot of domestic minor works and existing circuit alterations

This will be an absolute nightmare in regards to availability of devices and compatibility with existing brands of consumer units